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kim!
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Oh yes, and I'm SO PERFECT.
Sorry dude - if you want the rest of the world to stop thinking that people in your country are so bloody stupid, trying getting the 27 people who vote to vote for a president who has been to other countries APART from Canada and who can locate some other countries without prompting and maybe even speak another language AND demonstrate some education. Oh. And try to see if these are the sorts of people you can get onto the American television programs that get sent overseas. (Feel free to shoot people like Ricky Lake, if you like, then maybe all the "people" on shows like hers will go back to their trailer homes and STAY there. Never, ever to emerge) Then maybe we might not have such a weird perspective of your people. And maybe try to educate people a bit more - then when we scummy foreignors tell them a bit about history they won't seem quite so amazed and surprised as they usually are... Kim... |
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b95000
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Bruce
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kim!
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In all honesty, I know you're not all stupid and I know some of your television isn't complete sh*te...but I wish we had more evidence of it over here. I'm so sick of the rubbish we get over here.
Mind you, I'm sick of Australian rubbish, too. Kim... |
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b95000
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"In all honesty, I know you're not all stupid..." As they say, "Thanks - I think..." |
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Bruce
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AhmadJoyia
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Brother, as I see it, its your own comments that sounds like "speechless" to the arguments presented. If you have any other view, it would be more prudent to be presented than simply turning away from it with such comments. Isn't it? |
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b95000
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I am not "speechless" when it comes to presenting my argument about
Afghanistan. Just because the US and others supported the
indiginous populations against Russia in the 1980s (which never handed
control back to people of goodwill, in which elections and
Constitutions resulted) doesn't mean that what happened in 2002 was
without cause and without basis. That is what I mean by
complexities of geo-politics and why that topic doesn't lend itself
easily to bipolar or simplistic thinking..
It is clear that Afghanistan is better and better off today than under the horrors of the Taliban.. �The crew also acquired secretly-filmed footage of a public execution in a football stadium financed by the West. The footage shows a veiled woman
dragged to the centre of the pitch, and forced to kneel facing the goal posts. Edited by b95000 |
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Bruce
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AhmadJoyia
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Though not to support any regime, but fact remains "It is clear that Afghanistan is better and better off today than under the horrors of the Taliban..
" was never the objective of american forces. Isn't it? Hence, it would be naive to consider such arguments for invasion in an independant country. Can similar arguments of "against rogue" regimes be applied for invasions in those countries be applied? Such as Cuba, N. Korea or for that matter Libya or Iran and many more? I don't think so. |
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b95000
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I think whether nation building was the fomenting, straw that broke the
camels back and compelled action (9/11 slaughter was surely that) or
not, that is the resultant destiny of where we're all headed there (as
a world community.) As such, it's instructive to ask the question of
whether they're better off, since people are critical of the now.
But one must ask, what about the before now? That's only fair and
intellectually rigorous.
It's interesting that you call Afghanistan 'independent' when they were under the thumbs of groups like Taliban and AQ - how is that independent? I agree with you that special cirumstances coalesced around the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq. |
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Bruce
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