Will Israel never stop?

Caringheart wrote: Just came across this quote while reading:"If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be peace tomorrow. If the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel."It is sadly, but of a truth.More recommended reading;http://www.aish.com/jw/me/An_Open_Letter_to_Alice_Walker.htmlIf ye seek after truth.

Caringheart,
how that can be true. Palestinians do not have an Army or Air force and their is no Palestine. If there was a Palestine with its own Army that matched Israel's, I guarantee there will be peace. When there is equality or so there is peace. See how US and USSR now Russia have peace between them, because both have power and capability to destroy the other and that works as a balancing factor toward peaceful coexistence. The only other way to peace would be if there was no weapon, not a single one owned by any.

Anything forcefully imposed can only be kept by force, like the state of Israel was actually imposed by force on Palestine, and once you remove that imposing power, it will go back to be Palestine, not by force but just by removing force and impose.

Hasan

Edited by honeto - 24 November 2012 at 4:48pm

CAringheart,
Thank you, yes it was a great trip (All Praise to God), we drove as always and enjoyed it. Things have changed, otherwise we would like to go more often as we used to do.

I was talking about your comment: "First I don't know that I agree that Israel is hostile." that is nothing less than an arrogant comment if I may repeat. Why did you say that if you are well aware of what is going on?
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 24 November 2012 at 5:23pm

honeto wrote: Caringheart wrote: Just came across this quote while reading:"If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be peace tomorrow. If the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel."It is sadly, but of a truth.More recommended reading;http://www.aish.com/jw/me/An_Open_Letter_to_Alice_Walker.htmlIf ye seek after truth. Caringheart, how that can be true. Palestinians do not have an Army or Air force and their is no Palestine. If there was a Palestine with its own Army that matched Israel's, I guarantee there will be peace. When there is equality or so there is peace. See how US and USSR now Russia have peace between them, because both have power and capability to destroy the other and that works as a balancing factor toward peaceful coexistence. The only other way to peace would be if there was no weapon, not a single one owned by any. Anything forcefully imposed can only be kept by force, like the state of Israel was actually imposed by force on Palestine, and once you remove that imposing power, it will go back to be Palestine, not by force but just by removing force and impose. Hasan

Greeting Honeto,

Well, but wait. You say Israels existence was imposed by force on Palestine.....   but who determined the boundaries but the British at the turn of the century. I thought Palestine was simply something they made
up to keep their empire in order.

Before that Jerusalem was inhabited by people from all over the world... or so I remember from earlier reading... am I wrong about that?

There was no line seperating Jordan from what today is considereed Palestine.  That was all made up by the brittish. So aren't the Jordanians basically the same people as the palestinians?

So the British made up the lines of Palestine, and what is Israael... and what was called the Trans- Jordan. But there was no real force I believe until the Jews were really forced to fight. The palestinians threw in their lot  with the rest of the Arabs..... they probably got a little greedy as well,
or at least thought the Jews didnt stand much of a chance.

So they lost.... and from that point became an enemy of Israel.....  and also remember that not all Jews in Israel are of European Ancestry ...
many of them were displaced from around the Middle East and actually have their rightful place in the area. Where else would those belong?

I think the Jews need to realize that the palestinians have their rightful place ....  ( and many jews are fighting for plaestinian rights...note peace activist groups inside of Israel)
And likewise Gaza needs to recognize Jews are historically tied to that land. I'm not aware if Hammas has changed the wording in their founding charter .. but I know the original calls for the destruction of Israel openly.
Has that changed??
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCQx47kN6tI

Edited by abuayisha - 25 November 2012 at 6:56am