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honeto
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Jazakallah, everyone interested in understanding Palestinian Israeli issue need to see this video. This guy is a true believer, in truth, and there are many people like him. I hope the world see it. Many know it, hope they stand up for the right. Hasan Edited by honeto - 03 December 2012 at 3:22pm |
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Caringheart
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Gotta say, with the latest developments it seems neither side will work towards peace. One just keeps instigating with the other, on and on. This is why Britain got fed up and left. Neither side will do any thing to build trust with one another.
Just watched a very interesting discussion of the situation on PBS Newshour. At this point I am all for sanctions of Israel, for their arrogance. I wonder if the U.S. president will act. Truth does reveal itself. Edited by Caringheart - 03 December 2012 at 3:52pm |
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Matt Browne
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I agree. I'm totally outraged by yesterday's announcement for building new settlements in the West Bank. Israelis need to vote for a different government. Otherwise we won't see any progress. |
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honeto
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Matt and Caringheart,
I agree that this time United States has to be tough and stand firm, because this has happened so many times before and Israel has built tens of such settlements each time, and get away with that as the US gives in to the Zionist pressure in Washington. I hope the US shows them the door this time. It can help build our image as a strong independent country, not bending to anyone's pressure, nor blackmailed by Israeli lobby. Hasan Edited by honeto - 04 December 2012 at 3:03pm |
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abuayisha
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Matt Browne
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I agree. Likewise should all Islamic countries be tough and stand firm against the Hamas approach. We need moderation on both sides.
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TG12345
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Caringheart, Are you aware that before the rocket attacks and during times of "lull", the IDF has been shooting Palestinian fishermen and farmers in Gaza trying to harvest their crops??? http://palsolidarity.org/tag/fishermen/ Do you have any idea how the IDF treats Palestinians in the West Bank??? I have been there personally, please feel free to check out my blog: www.livingstones-tomasz.blogspot.com During my few weeks in Hebron, I witnessed a settler beating of a Palestinian in his own yard, witnessed settlers invade Palestinian property and stone sheep, witnessed the IDF throw sound grenades at, and beat up and arrest peaceful demonstrators, saw a Palestinian field that was set on fire with petrol, was called in to respond to a settler attack on a Palestinian family, was beaten up by settlers and hospitalized and was threatened by the Israeli army, was also in a Bedouin village that a week after our visit was demolished by the Israeli police and army in the Negev. This was from early July to the third week of August, 2010 when things were 'peaceful'. No, I do not support Hamas or their rocket attacks that terrify and injure and at times kill Israeli civilians. But to portray Israel as a "victim" in this is a joke. I invite you to visit Israel and Palestine and see what is happening. Please please please do not be one of those 'christians' who defends Israel's abuses of the Palestinian people. By doing so you not only act against Jesus who will judge us on the basis of how we treated the poor and oppressed (Matt 25:31-49) but also defend injustice in His name. Wake up!!!! |
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Caringheart
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Thank you TG12345,
I did not know of these other injustices, and this is horrible. I have been looking for people to talk to online for just this reason. (I have been so pleased to speak with a few Iranians on another forum.) I can not travel to see for myself the full truth of the situation and do not like to rely on media reporting. I do know the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. I definitely did not mean to portray Israel as a victim, but only meant to say that I understand their retaliations. You did see where I said, "I just wish all the aggression would stop and people would behave like civilized human beings and reach a settlement with one another." I did, and do, mean the aggression on both sides. Only when people can treat each other equally as human beings will we find peace with one another. Now, yes, the world needs to know more of these other things. Thanks for sharing. Caringheart added thought: Can we not make this about being 'Christian' or non-Christian? This is a humanity issue. There are plenty of people of all faiths, and of no faith, that I am sure are not well informed. How many are simply struggling every day for their own survival? How many are there, that do not have the ability to travel, and have never traveled? We can only know what we know, and what we have time for seeking. Edited by Caringheart - 24 December 2012 at 3:22pm |
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