Heaven and hell

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   Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

i am not talking about either group, but who ever has said la illaha
illah llah meaning they have believed in Allah without asociating
partners with him. If u can not imagine who these people may be or a
label you would give them then good becouse the above aplies to who
ever fits its description regardless of percieved labels.

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rami Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549	Post Options Post Reply Quote rami Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 August 2005 at 5:04am
	Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem assalamu alaikum i am not talking about either group, but who ever has said la illaha illah llah meaning they have believed in Allah without asociating partners with him. If u can not imagine who these people may be or a label you would give them then good becouse the above aplies to who ever fits its description regardless of percieved labels.
	Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.

Israfil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984	Post Options Post Reply Quote Israfil Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 August 2005 at 2:48pm
	Beyond our own religious dogma and theological beliefs we can understand that those who exist in Hell are those whos actions deemed them to be condemned souls who will forever be away from God. Those who exist in heaven are the individuals whose actions deemed them worthy of God's mercy and love through being near to him. When we add our doctrinal interpretation we must go by the implications on what God has meant in the Qur'an. Surely we can equate the mercy of God to the non-Muslims (jews and Christians and Sikhs) to modern times. I firmly believe (ass doctrine supports) that those who believe in the Oneness of God not associating partners with them are in fact making at least 1/4 of the Islamic creed which itself is a relation to our own deen. Sikhs ar enot mentioned in the Qur'an yet the believe in One God without associating partners with him. So again we should look at these standpoints before condemnation

Alwardah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 980	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alwardah Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 September 2005 at 2:34pm
	As Salamu Alaikum Masha Allah a very informative discussion. Insha Allah let's pray that Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala will shower His Mercy upon us so that we can be amongst those who enter Paradise. Ameen! "ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH". Wa Alaikum Salam
	�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165) "Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)