Islamic Caliphate Declared

Abu Loren wrote: marcello wrote: You have proved my point. Muslims are commanded by their "scriptures" to be satisfied as slaves. Their reward will be in the hereafter. Is it any wonder that Muslim leaders insist on indoctrinating people in such nonsense? After all, it is an excellent way to have people slavishly follow you. As you've never been to an Islamic country you will never understand. People on the street are happy with their leaders and if/when they are not they will let them know by peaceful demonstrations until the military show force. Nobody slavishly follow anybody, that is just your wishful thinking. The people are much happier in these countries than any Western country as people in the West are slaves to their financial situation. An average Joe Bloggs who works a 9-5 job live on credit such as Credit Cards, Bank Loans, Store Cards, Mortgages and Loan Sharks. These people are NEVER EVER happy. So tell me who is slave?

Actually, I have been to several countries that call themselves "Islamic". Every one was ruled by a dictator, who ruthlessly suppressed any dissent and indoctrinated his people in the belief that they should be happy as slaves and find their reward in paradise after death.

Now you have a point--such "true believers" may well be happier than freethinking people who can't bring themselves to believe such nonsense.

But in reality, the statistics show that you are wrong. Take a look at the World Happiness Report 2013, compiled under the direction of the U.N. The ten happiest countries listed are:

10. Australia (7.350)
9. Iceland (7.355)
8. Austria (7.369)
7. Finland (7.389)
6. Canada (7.477)
5. Sweden (7.480)
4. Netherlands (7.512)
3. Switzerland (7.650)
2. Norway (7.655)
1. Denmark (7.693)

By curious coincidence, these countries are also among the most atheistic countries.

Abu Loren wrote: If you ever go to a country where the majority are Muslims then you will find that the people are very happy indeed with the status quo. All the problems are generated by foreign, particularly Western manipulation. If the Western countries minded their own f*ing business then the world would be a safer and better place to live in.

Well, given that in most Muslim majority countries it can be a criminal offence to complain against the status quo, I'm not sure how we could even know if they are truly happy.

On the other hand, when women in particular are given the opportunity to report their feelings anonymously, as for instance on this very forum (e.g. in Culture and Community), it's easy to see that something is very, very wrong.

marcello wrote: By the way, Abu, are you leaving us soon to offer your services to the new Caliphate? And if not, why not?

LOL THAT caliphate is not from the people. Actually, those guys give Islam a bad name.

marcello wrote: How are you so sure? Thousands of Muslims are joining the forces of the new Caliph. Videos are showing how happy the people are under his rule. And there are verses from the Quran and support from the Hadith to justify everything he is doing.

Nobody gave them authority to do what they are doing. You will find that those people who are following them are localised people from the area and possibly disgruntled Al Qaeeda operatives.

In fact Muslims are supposed to fight against fitna or oppression wherever they are.

I'd be very surprised if these guys had any sort of world wide support for what they are doing.