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herjihad 
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 Posted: 13 August 2005 at 4:58am |
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Bismillah, Religious studies are important along with Academic studies. If the Saudi women don't keep the Saudi men and children straight about what is and is not haram, who will? |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Brother123
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Posted: 23 September 2005 at 8:51am |
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ummsaleh one or two mistakes dont mean the whole system is a failure. In Western kaffir countries the rapist is allowed to torure the women he raped by interigating her in court. You dont get wetsren women saying women in west are treated badly. Infact teh stick up for it except whose who have converted. One women every minute is raped in usa how many american kaffirs say america is bad or democrasy is bad. As it has been shown even in this forum when you mention these things then this makes kaffirs amuniciation to hate shariah and islam more. Saudi may be the best country in trems of shariah but it is not prefectly Islamic. The scholars have done a greta job under the circumstance stop keep it from going like other muslim countries backwards in to jahilia. And there is a huge struggle going on between the scolars and the pro american secularists. The secularist who want to replace law of the land from Allah's law with Kaffir westren law are saying they just hoping for the old people to die so they can have Naked women walking teh street , strip clubs, casinos, bars, legal fornication and adultery. Give rapists holidays in prison. In teh wets rapist have luxuries in prison that even the majority of people say in pakistan, bangladesh, egypt do not have, Then they get relased after a while to rape again and if caught back in holiday camp. Some sell tehir storie sto newspaers and become rich. Just a few months ago. In England. a women went to the police station to report and incident. The two english police men took her home and then both of them raped her. Another guy in england he chopped the head of his girlfriend and kept it in fridge and i think he ate parts of her. These kind of things happen in the christains countries but do the say oh our democrasy is so bad and our men are so bad. They only treta us liek a tiolet were they can just go and flush and kick it if it doesnt work to their satifaction. Do they say we need countries to invade us and civalise us? The studies done in uk said that 1 in 4 females were abused by their father, brother or uncles. But they still say democrasy and secular law is the best and their country is the most civalised. Why is it that Muslims if a few cases of injustice happen they turn their go against shariah and they wnat rapist to invade them and help them but not rape them? What is open minded ? Usually in the west regard open minded ness as being willing to addopt parts westren culture and values and reject some islamic values and islamic laws. And closed mindedness as being unwilling to move steps away from islam. A closed minded Muslim for them is one who sticks to quran and sunnah. This is quite intersting. From your obesrvations are you saying these Saudi women are willing to leave Quran and Sunnah for the maretialistic sex , drugs and rock culture? Just like women in many other Muslim countries. who have left quran and sunnah for the sex, drugs and rock culture of the west? Are you say saudi men are less likely to leave quran and sunnah than saudi women?
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kim!
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 7:35am |
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Brother 123, what the hell would you know. Probably a woman gets raped
every minute in Saudi, but since her word is worth so LITTLE in court,
SHE doesn't even get to BE humiliated by the man's interrogation in
court, because she either can't report her rape or can't get to court.
Rapes are REPORTED in countries like the US because Western women are TAUGHT to SPEAK OUT. Women in Saudi only get heard when they are TV NEWS READERS. Kim... |
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kim!
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 7:38am |
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And people from US should be shocked about stuff that goes on at home,
too, not just in Saudi. In the early 1990's a young black woman was
sentenced to death for stabbing the white the white guy who was raping
her. He died, so she was tried for murder.
Now, just TRY to imagine this happening the other way round - a black guy raping a white girl. If she killed him in self defence, there is NO way she would be tried for murder. She would get a virtual medal, no? Kim... |
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Lameese
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 9:20am |
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Actually, women are considered men's honor there. So, any small infarction can and will cause her to be in trouble. Your father and your brother are allowed to beat you and in the worst case senario, they are allowed to kill you. If you remember, about 15 years ago a man threw his wife from a 15 story balcony and when he was asked why he did this, he replied that she had embarrassed and shamed him. He was set free. If you were a Saudi women, would you tell anyone that you were raped? Hell NO! Why? Because that would cause your death, period. It would not matter if you were innocent, you would be the one that brought in on yourself and once you are not a virigin you are considered wasted and no man will want to marry you. The same as if you had premarital relations. But in this case there are doctors that can and do put your hymen back in place for you. You just have to have the money and have to be able to trust that Doctor. If you ever have the chance, speak to a Saudi women that is not longer in Saudi, speak to her alone, so that no one else hears her and she will tell you the truth about sooooooo many things that happen to women in her country.
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Brother123
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 12:23pm |
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yes women are considred mans honour. Unlike in USA were women are considerd like tiolets. use and abuse and flush. So no wonder they raped every minute in usa |
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Lameese
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 11:53pm |
You know, I do not think you know anything of the USA at all. As a matter of fact, I think you have a thing for Western women and they do not like you, thus, you make blanket, arrogant and uneducated assumptions based on your lack of intelligence and hate. You are most rediciolous person I have met on here with your ignorance. Of course I could say that Women in Islamic countries are raped every minute too. It could be a husband raping his wife or his son raping a maid. Now, don't I sound as ignorant as you? Also, women are their own people and not YOUR anything. Allah created us as a gift to you ungrateful, ignorant and slovenly men! You just do not know how to behave. Again, we are not your or anyone's anything. We have our own mind and our own souls that we have to protect.
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Jenni
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 10:40am |
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Brother123 is just here to annoy us, ladies I suggest ignoring him
since he is stuck in the stone ages and does not think Muslim women
deserve thier full rights. He likes the saudi model of no driving,
wearing a niqab and staying at home with 8 kids. That may be ok for
some ladies, but I think many want a different life, not to mention
many men want to marry an educated woman who is mature and only have a
few kids.. Peace
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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