Striking Sililarity between Hell and Black Hole |
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Ron Webb
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Can someone please tell me exactly where hell is referred to as "narul hamea", i.e. a black hole? I can't find it in the Quran, if that's what you mean.
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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AhmadJoyia
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1. There is no external source of energy. 2. Both the entities are in contact to each other. Can you provide any plausible reason to make such assumptions? |
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AhmadJoyia
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Just for sake of argument, if you believe in soul, or whatever that is, then you should also know the power of the Creator of the Black Hole. For Him, there is no difficulty. He only says 'Be' and that is it; everything happens, as per his plan. |
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Tim the plumber
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I don't believe in a soul but just for the sake of understanding what a black hole is... If you write something on a piece of paper the information is there for somebody else to read. If you burn that paper it is gone. Nobody can ever read the information. That is because the molecules of the paper are nolonger in a stable configuration and are not capable of holding any particular form as smoke. If you drop the paper into the sun not only will it be converted into gas but the molecules will then be torn apart and even the electrons striped from their atoms leaving a plasma where the electrons and nucleus's of atnoms wander about freely. It's that hot. If you drop the paper into a black hole the radiation will destroy it long before it gets anywhere near it, the heat will then make it a plasma, the tidal forces caused by it's concentrated gravity will spread the plasma very widely around the black hole and that's all before it actualy goes into the thing. Once in it gets much worse. There is no better way of destroying information than droping it into a black hole. To be anything a soul must contain your personality. Well that would be information. Edited by Tim the plumber - 02 December 2015 at 2:05am |
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AhmadJoyia
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airmano
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1) Not quite sure what you mean. Are you alluding to the question whether the Universe is an open or a closed system ? 2) No, all bodies above the absolute zero emit Black Body Radiation, otherwise any hot body in a vacuum would stay hot forever - what is not the case. -------------------------------------------------------
Having said so, I fully agree that souls would have a hard time resisting the destructive power of a black hole, be they Muslims or Christians, with or without daily prayers. Airmano Edited by airmano - 03 December 2015 at 1:20pm |
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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AhmadJoyia
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You too seems like to ignore my argument without realizing that the concept of �Soul� is only with the faithful and not the atheists. Thus, with this concept of �Soul� comes the concept of �God�, a divine entity with unlimited powers, by definition. So what is �hard time� and how does it make difference to the creatures like us? All irrelevant. Edited by AhmadJoyia - 03 December 2015 at 10:15pm |
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Tim the plumber
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Well, yes, if there is a supremly all powerful God then he can do what he wants to. Why would he use a real physical thing to do that though? Especially a black hole which is very tricky to do anything with. And why has my text gone small? |
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