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howard
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Dear AhmadJoyia,
I responded to your remarks on the Injeel before you wrote this last post. Your assertion that the word Injeel is derived from Arabic just does not stand up to examination. Read my reply please. |
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Dayem
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I will reply to your question if brother Israfil fails to reply within two days from now. Thanx, Dayem bin Anwar. |
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"the mooslims! they're heeere!"
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Israfil
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Due to unfortunate circumstances my comp did not let me post this long post I've written..... I don't however think Howard is sincere anyway so I choose not to re-write it again......I've concluded this because of how Howard's conduct wa sin the other foum.
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howard
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What other forum?
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Israfil
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Howard I've constantly had battles with people like you....You're constanting questing just to refute Islam is known therefore there is nothing for me to say. If you sincerely disagree with Islam fine but constantly trying to refute Islamic principle is pointless. If you disagree how about "To you your way and to me mine."
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Dayem
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Brother Israfil, u must be referiing to this surah by saying "To you your way and to me mine."
Surah 109. The Disbelievers, Atheists
1. Say : O ye that reject Faith! 2. I worship not that which ye worship, 3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, 5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 6. To you be your Way, and to me mine. |
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howard
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Israfil, hello Well obviously if one disagrees with the tenets of a religion or a belief system, then one will try to refute it. Don't Muslims try to refute Hinduism, Buddhism, atheism, Christianity etc? A problem often occurs when people with different if not opposing beliefs resort to personal abuse in order to 'argue' their position. I do not use such methods. Now, Muslims here by quoting certain Koranic verses have tried to show that Mohammed was illiterate . I examined the verses in question in a calm and rational manner and came to the conclusion that the ayat in question do not prove that Mohammed was illiterate - btw certain Muslims such as the Kharadjites also hold to the opinion that Mohammed was not illiterate. If you want to maintain that Islam is beyond rational analysis and that your religion is just a matter of faith, then fine. And in that case, yes, any rational discussion becomes impossible |
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Israfil
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first and foremost Howard how you approach the subject of
Islam and its various components is indeed in question. first off you ask for proof. I gave you proof then you asked for other things other than what you've asked. I gave you those yet you still disregard my post. the transition from a rational discussion to a perennial discussion of pointless arguments is what I do not look for. When one disagrees with the religion one makes it known that he/she disagrees but doesn't make points to try to refute the religion. How can I or anyone here take you seriously if you try to refte Islamic theology? Obviously your arguement sare subject thus the possibility of an irrational behavior and irrational discussion. If your disagreement was out of sincerity then its understandable then there are no quarrels because you just disagree with Islam. But you coming here trying to disprove the Qur'an is not sincere nor is it Christ-liek (if you are a Christian) nor is it the nature of a Judaic follow (if you are a Jewish follower). If you are atheist then I'd say the nature of you words are appropriate. That is whay I refuse to discuss the issue any further with you. You talk about rational discussion, but I have yet to find one out of you so I would suggest to you stop calling what you are discussing now rational. BTW the lacking part of your so-called rational discussion is evident in your words "Muslims always ty to refute Hinduism, Buddism Christianity etc." Obviosly you are God so you know all 1.2 Billion Muslims in the world. I haven't on here tried to refute non of thoe religions nor should you make a broad sweeping assertion. Again I have yet to find any rationality in your person therefore this conversation is over...... |
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