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I told you the Quran was written by human hands, or it does not even matter who wrote it it is not from God it is from Muhammad and Allah was Muhammad and he was Allah he made his own Allah and misled the Arabs by telling them he received the revelation from the angel Gabriel what a big liar he was,Gabriel wasn't near Muhammad there was no prooof of Gabriel but Muhammad himself.

How do you know all this? Do you have any credible proof? How do you know that there is no Allah and how did you deduce that Allah SWT, Creator and Muhammad PBUH, created are one and the same?

It is easy to make accusations but proving them is very, very difficult. However, I am giving you a chance to prove your accusations.


Muhammad's first so called revelation wasn't even written in first surah in the Quran Surah 96, 96 surahs after his other so called revelations this show you how bad the Quran was compilled and you want to point fingers to the bible.

No, this actually proves a miracle. The Quran was revealed over a period of 23 years and it was at random. Later on Gabriel put the revelations in proper divinely ordained order. The miracle is that the revelation was made to a non-literate person. Yet, the order of the revelation was corrected and the present order created, which the Prophet PBUH could not have done by himself!

Every revelation, whenever it happened was immediately dictated to writers who wrote it on any material available.


The direct revelations to Muhammad came out of his own brains and other things that he have borrowed from the jews christains and mostly all islam rituals was taken from pre-islamic pagan rituals.

Once again, I shall have to ask you to prove your allegations. Your suggestion that the Quran may have been copied from the Bible or information was obtained from Jews and Christians to write the Quran is absurd. Because the Quran criticizes the Bible. It differs with the Bible widely. And today science has proved the Bible wrong and the Quran correct.

His first so called revelation was reveal to him in the month ramadan which was already and established pagan ritual the month of ramadan in which the pagans fast from dusk to dawn,pray five times a day and circumbulant the kabaa seven times,throw the devil with stones and done the tawaf this was done by the pagans long before Muhammad's time,

Let me say right at the beginning that Islam is not a new religion. In fact it is the only religion that Allah SWT revealed. It began with Adam PBUH and was completed by Muhammad. Therefore, it is very likely that Muhammad PBUH took some prayers and rituals from his worthy predecessors. Although there is a rebuttal to Ramadan's pagan origin allegation at_
Please go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ramadan#Ramadans_Alleged_Pagan_Origins for your allegations about Ramadan's pagan origins rebuttal.


He used the pagan example as a foundation to build his own religion and strenghten his diplomatic ties with the pagans.
This rituals was never practiced by the jews or the christians.

Both jews and christians were ordered to fast. You just seem to be ignorant. Go to https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/fasting.html
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Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

why didn't Allah healed Mr Deedat? If he wasn't wicked man if he had all the faith then Allah should have heal him.


According to his bio he was born in 1918. That made him 78 when he fell sick.

Also he was very active theologian since he was very young, with millions of people have seen his debate, with style and charisma and they admired him.

Fell sick after almost 50 years of activity with countless of converts that is small price to pay, you agree?
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Asalam Alaykum

the sheik was 87 years old when he had his stroke, this fact alone should be the deciding factor of the validity of divine intervention....lol

Umm what should further not be forgotten is the lecture which supported the truth that jesus never claimed to be the son of god... Christianity lost the arguement
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Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

Allah is one, he is eternal, he is neither born nor give birth, there is nothing like him.what and why happened to Mr Deedat Allah only knows,Jesus Christ (pbuh ) was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah.
Funny He forgot to mention that. Jesus said His Father was greater than all, and that He and His Father were one and the same.

Edited by simple - 29 September 2016 at 12:03pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saved Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2016 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

Allah is one, he is eternal, he is neither born nor give birth, there is nothing like him.what and why happened to Mr Deedat Allah only knows,Jesus Christ (pbuh ) was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah.
Yes, God is one and Jesus is His Word!
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Originally posted by 6wlds2go 6wlds2go wrote:


Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

why didn't Allah healed Mr Deedat? If he wasn't wicked man if he had all the faith�then�Allah should have heal him.
According to his bio he was born in 1918. That made him 78 when he fell sick. Also he was very active theologian since he was very young, with millions of people have seen his debate, with style and charisma and they admired him.Fell sick after almost 50 years of activity with countless of converts that is small price to pay, you agree?
No, God doesn't charge us to serve him. Deedat would often quote in Arabic that "Truth smashes the brains of falsehood" before his debates. Maybe it is possible he said something that God wasn't happy with.
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Originally posted by rmujaahida rmujaahida wrote:

Asalam Alaykum

the sheik was 87 years old when he had his stroke, this fact alone should be the deciding factor of the validity of divine intervention....lol

Umm what should further not be forgotten is the lecture which supported the truth that jesus never claimed to be the son of god... [IMG]smileys/smiley18.gif" align="middle" /> Christianity lost the arguement
Christianity lost the argument? What argument? We don't argue this. We just accept it as truth. God said it we believe it and that settles it with no argument. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God by calling God His father, and God verbally claimed Jesus was His son; so, how can anyone win an argument against that or what God said?

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God has Sons by the tons.
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