Women against men

oh no problem...my english is not perfect either..but i was saying if they dn't bother others in live in peace without messin around with others i think..they are ok u know what i mean..they have the right to live that way..i don't think allah will be mad at them and send them to hell..as brother123 says...we are all humans created by one God..he knows how stupid we can get and thats y he keeps on forgiving us..i just think ppl who simpli live n do good shouldnt be bothered..they have the ryt to live that way u know wat i mean..they may be wrong but God will forgive them...

Dayem wrote: ANGEL:Well yes......but...if we r getting the respect and same treatment in this life only......what is the advantage?

what is the advantage you ask, umm lets see...I don't know maybe a good life in the next life

Dayem, people treat others with respect and equality because they see it as the right thing to do, not for satisfaction of this life only but to do good in general because it makes them a better person and the other person feels good about it to, they feel respected and worthy.

Why does there have to be any gain ?? Why can't you do it because that is the person who you are ?

Some think Mother Teresa work was to get into heaven, perhaps a selfish gain and not for the good of humanity.

Do you not do the right in islam to avoid punishment and to get to heaven, is this not also a selfish gain ? Why do you do it for, sure you do it to please God - is that all ??

Is it not, to do good and praise God by doing good for humanity and this universe by giving it respect and equality and treat everyone as you want to be treated.

Have you heard of the ripple effect ?

I simple don't agree with this superiority issue you have, believing that you are better than non believers. So some people believe in God and some don't, so what. We still human aren't we ??

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why r u asking if you dont care ?????...lets be open here yo....n angel i been saying that but noone is tryin to understand humans r equal...

As salam u alaikum wa rah mu tullah wa bar ka tuhu,

ANGEL:I once again agree with most of ur argument...but..yah there is once again a "but".

U r right, we should respect others..and in turn will get respected..but my point is that even a person who is a muslim will respect others.Because we have been asked to.Now a person cares for other and in turn is respected..now suddenly circumstances changes..suppose he is suddenly converted frm riches to rags..will he continue to respect others?Will he not curse his fate?But if that person is a believer in God and last day..he will know that it is all a test..he will shrugg his shouldier and carry on..

Now when u say something like service of humanity is the service of God..I agree..but frm where did this 'God' came frm?I thought we were discussing an unbeliever.

As brother123 said, God is more important than humans.Well he is rite.We muslims are supposed to pray, as well as care for poors by giving zakath, etc, and try to strengthen the relation ships with other family members.We r doing it for the sake of God's desire only.

As for 'some people not believing in God' they r doing a great sin..God created them and they r themself denying Him.Yes they r humans..but definately not equal to those who believe.

Brother123:sorry, Im only learning here..I will definately look for the shariah defination..but u didnt tell me where im lacking?Whats the meaning of 'DIY expert in lunguistics '?