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mankind
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lol..men u r tooo clever thinking statements r tricks now n gettin all paranoid..wat am saying is simple n y r u refering to the non believers as criminals..there r sum non believers who dont care about wats going on n they r just living normal peacefull life...n am here to discuss not to trick u into questions...n just for the record i agree wit wat angel is sayin..ez up pplz..enjoy ur ramadan...
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Angel
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I'm not talking about my beliefs here. The discussion is on about you believing that believers/muslims are better than non muslims, you thinking that you are superior than others and why I think its wrong.
They still believe in God. They are human beings just like you, just because they don't believe the same way about God as you, doesn't mean that you don't treat them with respect and equality, we are all human beings and face same things in life. And you seem to stay with one group of people.
And who are they?
I'm not going to speak about my beliefs about God here in this thread, this is not the subject. |
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Angel
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really?? what makes you think that? We are all human beings of the one and same species, just because some of us believe differently than you doesn't mean we do not deserve respect and equality from each other. We are one and everything on this planet and universe are made up of technically the same things, since we are all one, we are connected thru all things, we feel what happens in another part of the world, and we hate many of the bad things that happen and we rejoice in many of the happy things, why is that Brother123 ? Because we are all human beings and we feel and we go thru the same things DESPITE what we believe in, that alone should consitute to being respectful and treated equally. No one needs to be superior over another because of their beliefs. But it seems to be commanded in the qur'an, something I don't agree with.
A lair is a criminal ?? mmmm .
Really and what if they are right ? You muslims cannot say what is right and what is wrong in the injil so you cannot be certain for sure. And besides we are all God's children sons and daughters, we are His creation are we not ?? |
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Angel
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Do really need to be asked ?? You shouldn't really have to be asked. So if you weren't asked to mostly especially from God, you wouldn't ?? So much for using you God given brain
You really sure about that ? The person you describe, may or may not, a person may in the beginning curse his fate but he also has the ability to change his fate again. Some people became humble when they fall. Some people will still respect others. Just because a believer believes in God doesn't mean he/she will shrug his shoulders and carry on.
No we were/are discussing this superiority issues, where a believer is better than non muslims.
While you do it for God's desire, you do it for your desire else well, that is to get into jannah and not the hell fire
Again, I rest my case on the "I'm better than you / I am the best because I believe and therefore don't need to treat you the same" Honestly that is the mentality that is going on here. Mankind is the only one here that fully understands where I'm coming from. Dayem you somewhat do but you are only half there, and Brother123 you are off track I think you need to learn some more about humanity |
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candor
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Don't worry brother, Western civilization is too much unnatural (and thus, unsuitable) for human beings to follow. It can't survive for long. It can exist only as a special case. Because it is artificial it takes very high prosperity and inequality (i.e, poor nations of the world supply the resources to the West) to sustain it. In general, such great prosperity and inequality are difficult to sustain. By nature, women are not adapted to work outside home.Even in the WEst, most women don't work outside home(although they have the choice). Therefore, very few "Muslim" women will choose to immorally follow the western way of life and work outside home in defiance of Islamic law (which is in sync. with human nature); and even fewer, will risk losing their head just to work outside home. Thus, they can easily be suppressed. In fact, no where in the Muslim world (excluding Eastern Europe) Westernism can survive without great external support (presently, its only the West that supports it; earlier, the Communists were also involved). Edited by candor |
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candor
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Don't worry about what Lame-Is (or lemmings or lemur, whatever) say. She doesn't want asians to take her work but her employer does. That's why Americann companies outsource their work to other countries where people with greater skill are available at reasonable rates. I really don't give a damn about what these bloke-headed and feeble minded westerners say and I advise you not to respond to them, Edited by candor |
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I lived in an Islamic country four years. I studied the islamic religion with an open mind. While Mohammad may have done some good things during his day for the less fortunate female gender, it isn't being done this day and age. It is the most depressing thing to read how some Moslem women care so little for their own gender and join the men in such harsh judgement and punishment toward themselves. I am so glad I am not a slave to such a mean and devilish vehicle as this religion is towards women. If it has been handed down in its purest form (in Mohammad's own words) that women are to be treated this way, then I am sorry but Mohammad was wrong. Any woman who would willingly take up Islam or the Mormen religion are masochistic to say the very least. If God had intended men to marry more than one wife, he would have made Adam and Eve, Joan, Lelah and Fatemah. Wake up women ! Why are you buying all this crap ? Do you like pain and suffering? Or do you just like seeing others in pain and suffering? You are participating in evil by joining in and trying to gain the approval of your pursecutors. Allah knows the difference in a kind and an evil-loving heart. Don't you know it was a woman who gave birth to Mohammad???? |
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Dayem
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Pardon me, but do u have anything against Muhammad(pbuh)?I didnt get it. Sister Espira, I think the problem with is ur lack of understanding:who told u women r not treated equally?And in Islam?No way.U tell me the exact problem, I will try to help and remove any misunderstanding. For example, Qur'an says men can marry 4 wife only if they r able to care and pay all attention to all of them.It is recommended that they marry only one. Have u read Qur'an, by the way? If Qur'an was against women, can u tell me the reason hy in US, every 4 convert to Islam has the ratio of 3:1 against men?That is,after every 3 women become muslim, there is man converting.( in US.) |
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