Logic: Allah�s Omniscience & Omnipotence

Howard writes:

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     There is a simple word for such touching solidarity among the members of the ummah.

Evil.

True. 

The Quran says:

� Be just and fair and witnesses for God even against yourselves, parents, or next of kin�.

Sura 4, The Women, verse 135.

It also says:

� God enjoins and commands justice, benevolence and the help of relatives and forbids inequity wrong doing and transgression�.

Sura 16, The Bee, verse 90.

� (The Prophet) Muhammad (Peace be upon him) further emphasizes this by saying: God does not regard a people who do not do justice by taking the rights of the weak from the powerful among them. In this we see Muhammad calling for high moral values and standards, applying them first to himself, perfecting them to the point that if he wronged someone he hurried to compensate him, and if he distributed charity he did do so without bias. He condemned the maltreatment of any person on the grounds of color, race or religion. He called people to regard the revealed religions with respect and commanded adherence to them by their respective followers. All this was done in order to create a productive human society in which the individual was favored on the basis of his piety, the observance of duty, the protection of rights, and the shunning of evil.�

Excerpt from a speech to the Grand Assembly in Kyoto Japan by Sheikh Ahmad Kuftaro, Grand Mufti of Syria April 17-23, 1993

A believer has no conflict with the creator; the creation, however, is conflict, or rather the supreme example of that universal constant, change. There are many such universal values of which I am certain you are aware. For those of us who seek enlightenment, wishing this for our brothers and sisters, be it justice, equality � peace, it is for us to decide in accordance with these universal values, these principles for lack of a better word, what path we follow, what voices we acknowledge, what truths we believe.

One will ultimately discover there is one truth.

In the interim there is the path. The best path, inshAllah (God-Willing), takes the road less traveled: Gandhi took it, Martin took it, Malcolm took it, Mother Teresa took it � Jesus (May God be pleased with him), Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and every prophet who came before traveled it well. It is the path of faith. For those who have this world as their end faith is meaningless. For the believer, this world is their beginning, it's betterment their test, their struggle the acts of worship and life which, if you believe, grants one the afterlife or, if one does not believe, grants one the satisfaction of leaving behind the best of examples to live by, the knowledge of a life worthy of emulation.

To your point, Allah does not need our worship. We do. It is a daily affirmation, a reminder to remain steadfast in the face of struggle, to remain true to principles, to live within the rule of law, with standards and ethics as guiding principles and human examples, a few of which I listed above, to show us that it can be done.

I hope there is an afterlife, but I have no time to concern myself with that which is the purview of God. If it is there, outstanding, great, maybe I made it and I wish this for my family, friends and everyone on this forum and beyond; if it is not, just as well, because the life still had meaning in fulfilling the needs of others, giving others a place to stay, sharing a meal � saving a life. The six examples I listed above did all of these things; they will be talked about until the end of this world. They were the best of humanity, divinely influence and inspired, exemplary characters all, influential � worthy.

What was the name of the Sheikh you quoted?

Skswsdom and skygazer
My brethern I love your spirit, your valour and your posts. But is there any fun in wasting your time and energy on any such simple, straight filth that just springs out of sheer envy?

Let's do something better with our time.

Obviously Howard is an atheist and like all others of various background she has the right to say whatever he feels, but however let me address the court here that when Atheist bring up the: Can God (or for the Christian, Jesus) make a rock so big he can't lift? Wh did God make the planets Spherical and not Triangular? Why is the sun redish orange and not white? Why do we feel pain, heat, cold?

Why are the stars transparent? Obviously some of these questions are explainable scientifically but ultimately the metaphysical principles that we encounter in our everyday lives are unexplainable by virtue of their own nature, meaning those objects which we have yet to define. Even objects that are define their origin of purpose is yet unknown because ultimately humans do not know the true nature of God therefore even while explainin our doctrine it should be known to those who inquire our faith to understand the true nature of God being unknown.

There is no tongue on earth that can give God the glory he deserves nor can we make correct attributes concerning his nature. Our language limits us therefore we should be careful in discussing these issues. But Glory be to Allah I don't have to partake in this any further LOL