Women-Led Friday Prayer

It is not the decay of society when a woman leads prayer.  It is decay of society when you disrespect women as we do with such misogynistic cultural interpretations.

Find me a hadith that states a woman can not drive in Saudia Arabia when they were driving around camels and leading wars?

No, the decay of the society is now when we have allowed extremist views to dicate Islamic society and not practiced moderation, moderation, moderation and tolerance.

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

Hello Kim

>>>and in other countries women are just shut away to be used when men feel like it.<<<

Unfortunatly that is true in some societies but not a genralisation of Islamic society. I dont know any society were the mistreatment of women is a character trait of that society as a hole. Dont let outward apearances of the veil fool you that is only for the public view privately muslim women are very strong at home.

>>>It is not the decay of society when a woman leads prayer.  It is decay of society when you disrespect women as we do with such misogynistic cultural interpretations.<<<

On one hand we have

All the scholars in Islam for 1400 years

on the other

Few un Qualified People

A reasonable person can tell who is right and who is wrong.

Acusing people of hatred becouse you lack the qualafications and understanding of how islamic laws are formulated is your short coming, it is your responsability to learn so you are able to understand what Highly educated people are saying ie the Mujtahid Imams of this ummah. I am talking about women leading men in prayer do not confuse issues. It is considered Moral Decay when men in the society view women bending over in prayer while they are trying to worship Allah as being acceptable this is desensatisation from moral values. Dont kid your self if you think men do not have sexual thoughts especialy now in an age were men and women both lack self control.

>>>Find me a hadith that states a woman can not drive in Saudia Arabia when they were driving around camels and leading wars?<<<

Actually women can drive in islam according to the madhhabs as far as i know, the distance they can travel and reasons vary, i am not familiar with them. From what i know she can travel in her local area easely. The laws are based on safety from what little i know so i guess it varies from place to place. Saudi Arabia does not follow traditional islam but wahabi ideology.

>>>No, the decay of the society is now when we have allowed extremist views to dicate Islamic society and not practiced moderation, moderation, moderation and tolerance.<<<

If you are talking about women leading prayer the Islamic view is clear and there is concecus by all the scholars of islam in every generation, if you are talking about women driving cars then i agree with you this is not traditional islam.

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

There is a consensus, i sugest you read An Examination of the Issue of Female Prayer it discusess all the diferent views in islam and tells you what the traditional islamic view is not a generlisation which seems okay from afar but does not hold up to closer scrutiny or the Usul of Fiqh, somthing which people are ignoring!

We follow the Quran and the Sunnah not just the Quran!

What are your quotes from "Abou El Fadl" about i have said nothing of what he is acusing people are saying. He is not talking about women leading men in prayer but a more general area of women in society, the quotes are irelavant you are confusing issues.

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

in the context (or lack of) of what he was saying it did not seem like it.

a general statment means nothing there is no evidence for his position.

Have you read the article i mentioned?