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DavidC
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Rami - good link. I don't understand this hadith Raad al Muktar that is
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Christian; Wesleyan M.Div.
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Angel
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You both maybe unstable when together, but when alone you are probably stable and I think that should count, and I don't think there is a need to get an abortion because both parties can't work things out. You do not need two parents to bring up a child, altough it can help but its not necessary, I am from a single parent family and my mum did everything without a man around and I am quite perfectly fine and of course there will be hardships but if you have family and friends, then it lessens it. Edited by Angel |
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rami
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem
"The great Hanafi Faqeeh Ibn Abidin States in his Radd al-Muhtar" Radd al Mutar is a work by the scholar Ibn Abidin. If you require specicifc ahadith about the development of the feotus look up the subject from an "islam and science" perspective on the net. Although the interpretation of these works are not 100% they are relatively good and in this particular area much has been done. |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Angela
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You should have sympathy. She shouldn't have an abortion, but this young woman is in need of caring hearts and encouragement. Where is your charitable spirit? Instead of chastising her about her being with her husband, you should be helping her by encouraging her to be a good mother and wife. Or at the very least to give the child life and a good home. I surely hope when it is you who are struggling with an unexpected occurance and turn for help there are more charitable and kind people to put a hand out to you.
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Muslim Friend
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I surely hope when it is you who are struggling with an unexpected occurance and turn for help there are more charitable and kind people to put a hand out to you. Angela - i have been through this very situation - i am a single parent - but not for 1sec did i even contemplate an abortion. If this girl knew that her relationship was more than unlikely to last and they were already going through a small separtion - then do you not think that bringing a child into the world should be considered once you are comfortable in your relationship and know you can provide that child with a stable household?? What i meant and probably should have made more clear is - that i have no sympathy for someone who at the first hurdle considers a way out - But if she tried i bet she would make a great parent - it'll be hard but as long as you have a support system you'll be fine. |
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Nausheen
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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem, Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim, We are all different individiuals with different situations and potentials. Dear Muslim friend, we all go thru hardships in our lives, and face them in whatever way we are able to. When we see our fellow humans in a similar condition it should call for compassion and kindness extended from us. Alhamdulillah, you had the wisdom and far sightedness to handle your situation more tactfully, which this sister is unable to. But we do not know pressures which she may be going thru. when we do not know the reasons for a person's drawbacks, it is better not to convey our readings on them that may hurt. Maa salaama, Nausheen |
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Muslim Friend
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Well, all i can say is you are alot nicer and more patient than i am.
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O Allah! Bless Muhammad and let his be the place close to you on the day of Resurrection.
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MayPB
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I disagree with whatever scholar said that abortion is permitted until 3 months. Life is present at conception and as Muslims we must protect innocent human life and the virtue of our lives as servants of God. I urge all sisters on this thread to stand up against abortion in all circumstances pertaining to "choice". We are called to support the mother who suffers from a harsh situation and if necessary raise a child who is orphaned or adopted out (which is understandable in case of rape or incest) And those women who choose life in these excrutiating circumstances are todays unsung heros! Unmarried pregnant women find themselves in an irreversable situation which ultimately has no solution that feels ideal. The result of her "mistake" becomes her redeeming solution by adopting this child to a loving family with a mother and a father. These women are fulfilling their obligation of pregnancy by protecting the child in their womb and gaining alot of dawah for labor! Humbling themselves and accepting charity of a more stable family they choose the best life for the baby in hopes of a better future for others. Peace
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