Who is Jesus?

dear all muslim freinds

Thankyou for all your responses , counter response and views.I am sure that in our honest search for truth the lord will grant us the final revelation .My prayer for all of you is found in the following  conversation between Jesus christ and his disciples and especially Jesus and peter.Finally it is God who ends our struggles for truth.he is the revealer of all truth.

The Great revelation to peter about Jesus christ -who is he?: John 16:13-18

 ¹³When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"

 ¹⁴They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."

(not satisfied )

 ¹⁵"But what about you?" he asked . "Who do you say I am?"

 ¹⁶Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,the Son of the living God."

 ¹⁷Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. ¹⁸And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock (person,revelation ,Doctrine,Truth) I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God and that by believing you may have life in his name (John 20:31)

"For in christ all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,"(Col 2:9)

Thankyou all and may this new year bring joy and prosperity in all the areas of your life.

pauline35 wrote: Hello Gospelmap, In reality, John wasn't even the chosen one by GOD to lead Christ, and because of his selfishness, he created the opportunity for others to establish many churches such as Angelican (approved armageddon by allowing Gay and Lesbian marriages so to discontinue human race's production), Baptism (set a percentage of donation about 10% from salary and make it compulsory to give salary as donation, so that the Priest can drive Honda Civic or luxury car), Christian specifically teaching that Islam and other religion are devil (once I was told by Christian Pastor), etc. The truth is the world has come to understand that Bible was written by human revelation for selfish benefits to conquer and not through divine revelation as being claimed earlier by many. How do Christian conquers? Giving an example that Gospelmap had committed a serious crime and make his confession to the father one Sunday morning. The next course of action that the father took was to threaten John that if he ever stop coming to the Church and stop donating a certain amount of his salary, the father will lodge a police report on the crime that he admitted earlier. As simple as pure logic. What if you make false confessions? Your guilt will haunt you forever! That is why it is silly to do such a confession to anyone whom you barely know. What if the father is the undercover police officer? Hahaha...gotcha! Happy Truthful New Year and May Allah forgive your sins if you pray to him.

Pauline, these people are no more Christian than Osama bin Laden is a Muslim. 

Let me tell you, I give 10% of my income to my church.  Do you know where this money goes?  I do.  Not to my clergy....My church does not have a paid clergy.  Those that serve my church do not receive paychecks or compensation.  The money goes to charities, building new church buildings, paying for the utilities, buying new bibles, helping out victims of natural disasters, the food bank, medical care for the needy and there are many others.

I feel sad that you have only experience hypocrisy in your dealing with the Christian church.  From your venom, I would say its probably the Angelicans and hte Baptists.  I have known good people from both churches that disagree with the actions that some in their denomination have taken. 

Though I respect Islam and many of the lessons it teaches.  I could sit here and list the same complaints you lodge against Christians for any faith, including Islam.  There are clerics who use their status to claim power, political power.  A holy man should not seek such things.  There are rabbis who cheat in business and drive Lexuses.  This is not what these religions are, its fallen men who belong to a faith.

DavidC is not psychotic.  And please do not attack him like that.  Disagree with Gospelmap's use of the bible.  I'm fine with that.  I can point out his misinterpretations in several places.  But understand, that its not John who gathered the books of the bible.  The Old and New Testament as we know them are a collection of works, not one steady revelation as the Quran is.  They are views into the world and they have been translated and retranslated. 

In Muhammed's time, there were 73 sects....people get ahold of the truth and they start interpreting it their own way.  The Injil, Torah and Quran are guide posts to help us navigate.  The prophets are people who continue to lead us towards God's message. 

But, instead of calling Christians idiots and blaming us for something that true Christians do not believe in (Gay Marriage).  Instead you should follow Christ's example (this applies even if you view him as only a prophet) and love your fellow man.  Show compassion and work for peace.  When you use harsh tones and insults against others who do not belive as you do, then you only encourage the conflict to continue. 

Ever heard of the statement, you catch more bees with honey than vinegar?

Alaikoam Salam

Why ask who Jesus was?

Why not ask the more important question?

"Who are we?"

"What are our goals and aspirations?"

"Where do we see ourselves in 5 years, ten years, etc.?"

Certainly getting to know who Jesus was is of importance though it is more important to know who we are as a person, as a people and where we want our lives to be directed.

This is my opinion....

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

You make me chucle Isr....