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   i've heard teachers said that the punishment is like kaffarah
(atonement, expiation) of the sin. every crime has a price. thus people
should remember that, & not flout laws simply because they can seek
forgiveness later.

maybe the husband should seek advice from his family, her family,
scholars, imam (whom wedded them, or not) etc. gain support for the
decision. & of course seek Allah's Guidance. wallahu a'lam.

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firewall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2004 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote firewall Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Unfaithfull Friend Posted: 20 January 2006 at 10:04am
	i've heard teachers said that the punishment is like kaffarah (atonement, expiation) of the sin. every crime has a price. thus people should remember that, & not flout laws simply because they can seek forgiveness later. maybe the husband should seek advice from his family, her family, scholars, imam (whom wedded them, or not) etc. gain support for the decision. & of course seek Allah's Guidance. wallahu a'lam.

Amina16 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 22 October 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote Amina16 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2006 at 9:59am
	what does stoned mean? i don't really know. i looked it up in the dictionary and it said to throw stones or a person thats drunk.
	"Words have Power" ex: The Quran

Lameese Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Female Joined: 08 April 2002 Status: Offline Points: 304	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lameese Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2006 at 7:59am
	There is a Hadeith about comitting adultry. When they asked the Prophet (pbuh) what to do with the 2 people that comitted adultry he said to stone them. They stoned the woman but the man ran and begged for mercy and repented and promised he was sorry and never would do it again. They told the Prophet this and he said do not stone him if he is truely sorry and repented. Of course, the found him and stoned him anyway (others). So, there is mercy and foriveness if one is truely sorry. Lameese

~Taryn~ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 October 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote ~Taryn~ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2006 at 11:28am
	She told him and myseld that the reason she did this was because she didn't think that he loved her anymore. He never treated her like a wife, or anything like that. It wasn't right but I assume she got his attention now. She swore she would never do this again...I guess u just have to believe her right

abuayisha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105	Post Options Post Reply Quote abuayisha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2006 at 7:35pm
	As Rami mentioned, there is no Islamic authorities to administer punishment prescribed for this major sin. How very sad this has happened, (we ask Allah to protect us from this) but it should serve as a reminder for us to heed the limits set by Allah, Most High, ie, lowering our gaze, not being alone with a non-muhram, and avoiding unnecessary talk and meetings - fearing Allah. Do not despair, for Allaah the Most Exalted and Glorified said (interpretation of the meaning): "Say: Oh my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the mercy of Allaah, for Allaah forgives all sins; for He is oft-forgiving, most merciful." [Surah 39,Verse 53] Tell your friend that she has to increase in good deeds so that Allah will wipe out her evil deeds, as Abdullah ibn Masud reported. He said that a man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, �Oh Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), I met a woman in the garden so I pulled her close, fondled her, kissed her, and did everything with except have intercourse. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was then silent and so the verse came down, "verily, the good deeds erase the bad deeds, that is admonition to those who remember." So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) called him and recited it to him. So Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, �Oh Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is this for him specifically or for everyone. He said (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , �no, for everyone.' (It was narrated by Ahmad.)

herjihad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2473	Post Options Post Reply Quote herjihad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:41pm
	*Bismillah,* Why is he so eager to forgive this? Was he away for a long time? Is he ill and unable to be a husband to her? What possible excuse does she have for him that he would want to not only forgive her, but believe that she won't do the same thing again? I knew a Muslim Arab couple once where this happened. The woman was stunningly beautiful and sweet. He gladly took her back She did it again. But the second time she ran off with the guy. The poor husband took a long time to recover from this betrayal. But he is happily remarried now, Al-Hamdulilah.
	Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.

Angela Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angela Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:04am
	024.001 YUSUFALI: A sura which We have sent down and which We have ordained in it have We sent down Clear Signs, in order that ye may receive admonition. PICKTHAL: (Here is) a surah which We have revealed and enjoined, and wherein We have revealed plain tokens, that haply ye may take heed. SHAKIR: (This is) a chapter which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. 024.002 YUSUFALI: The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. PICKTHAL: The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. SHAKIR: (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement. 024.003 YUSUFALI: Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. PICKTHAL: The adulterer shall not marry save an adulteress or an idolatress, and the adulteress none shall marry save an adulterer or an idolater. All that is forbidden unto believers. SHAKIR: The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and (as for) the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers. 024.004 YUSUFALI: And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;- PICKTHAL: And those who accuse honourable women but bring not four witnesses, scourge them (with) eighty stripes and never (afterward) accept their testimony - They indeed are evil-doers - SHAKIR: And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, (giving) eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors, 024.005 YUSUFALI: Unless they repent thereafter and mend (their conduct); for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. PICKTHAL: Save those who afterward repent and make amends. (For such) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. SHAKIR: Except those who repent after this and act aright, for surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. 024.006 YUSUFALI: And for those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own,- their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth; PICKTHAL: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing) by Allah that he is of those who speak the truth; SHAKIR: And (as for) those who accuse their wives and have no witnesses except themselves, the evidence of one of these (should be taken) four times, bearing Allah to witness that he is most surely of the truthful ones. I'm still trying to find the Stoning thing Rami.....where are you getting that? It says flogging here....in the Quran. Edited by Angela

rami Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549	Post Options Post Reply Quote rami Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 January 2006 at 12:59pm
	Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem There is no islamic government to punish this person, so you will not have to worry about stonning or lashes. Which is unfortunate since stonning for a married person who commited such a sin was not simply punishment it was the means by which the person was purified of this sin and admitted to jannah. Allah does not punish a person in the next life if they recieve there punishment in this life. Your friend will have to find another means of forgivness from Allah.
	Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.