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Although I'm not going to read all 8 pages of this topic I would like to ask you all a couple things. Why has there not been one mass protests to the USS Cole bombing, multiple embassy bombing and the beheadings all in the name of Islam? Why is it that you are ready to protest, kill and mame people for drawing a couple dumb (not funny at all) cartoons of the phophet in a paper that no one reads? Why did it take months for it to become an issue? When 9/11 first happened I tried to tell my friends that it was just a few bad apples and that we should not judge an entire religon based off the actions of a few(people dancing in the streets of muslim countries). But now that I seen your reactions (or lack of) during the last few years, reactions to a cartoon and even this entire site that is all about hate for americans (read some of the articles on this website) and everything bad that has happened to you is our fault I'm losing my sympathy for Islam real quick. I know there are still millions of good people that follow Islam but no one seems to be standing up saying "stop with the terrorist activity in the name of my religon". Not a single one!!! Has anyone over thought that your problems are not caused by Americans but maybe the repressive regimes that are in power of your countries? Ever notice that why so many go without in your countries while the leaders sit in gold palaces and drive the best of cars. I know it's our fault as it always has been but the way I look at it, we have only been here for a couple hundred years yet you all have been year for thousands and still can't seem to get anything right. Sorry but when I see you guys condem the beheadings and bombers attacking weddings and such I will condem the drawings.

 

 

Edit: One more thing, why no protests when your papers make fun of the Jews or Jesus? Kind of a double standard thing is it not?



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ops154: One more thing, why no protests when your papers make fun of the Jews or Jesus? Kind of a double standard thing is it not?

We Muslims believe in all Messengers of Allah (God ), therefore, don't mock at any one of them. It is an important part of our faith that we respect them. Can you give any example where Muslims made fun of Jesus ( peace be upon him ).

I haven't found a single post or article here written by Muslims that condones violence or terrorism in the name of Islam. It is boycott that is being considered here. Can you show me one such article that condones violence?

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Originally posted by ops154 ops154 wrote:

Although I'm not going to read all 8 pages of this topic I would like to ask you all a couple things. Why has there not been one mass protests to the USS Cole bombing, multiple embassy bombing and the beheadings all in the name of Islam? Why is it that you are ready to protest, kill and mame people for drawing a couple dumb (not funny at all) cartoons of the phophet in a paper that no one reads? Why did it take months for it to become an issue? When 9/11 first happened I tried to tell my friends that it was just a few bad apples and that we should not judge an entire religon based off the actions of a few(people dancing in the streets of muslim countries). But now that I seen your reactions (or lack of) during the last few years, reactions to a cartoon and even this entire site that is all about hate for americans (read some of the articles on this website) and everything bad that has happened to you is our fault I'm losing my sympathy for Islam real quick. I know there are still millions of good people that follow Islam but no one seems to be standing up saying "stop with the terrorist activity in the name of my religon". Not a single one!!! Has anyone over thought that your problems are not caused by Americans but maybe the repressive regimes that are in power of your countries? Ever notice that why so many go without in your countries while the leaders sit in gold palaces and drive the best of cars. I know it's our fault as it always has been but the way I look at it, we have only been here for a couple hundred years yet you all have been year for thousands and still can't seem to get anything right. Sorry but when I see you guys condem the beheadings and bombers attacking weddings and such I will condem the drawings.

 

 

Edit: One more thing, why no protests when your papers make fun of the Jews or Jesus? Kind of a double standard thing is it not?

 

I think you will find the cartoons are just the straw that broke the camels back.. what we are seeing is all the anger and injustic spewing forth through years of playing victims...

And as one blogger put it eloquently

�And why are more Muslims apparently outraged over some goofy cartoons that were drawn thousands of miles away than they are about beheadings and suicide bombings that occur in their own backyard?�

Why? Because they are all hypocrites.

Ofcourse this "distraction" theory could play a part... but again it is just a bloggers theory.

http://actsofaggression.blogspot.com/

Thursday, February 09, 2006

Still a Load of Crap!

Sandmonkey has the goods. The figgin cartoons were published in Egypt back in October 2005 without any mass protest.
Now while the arab islamic population was going crazy over the outrage created by their government's media over these cartoons, their governments was benifitting from its people's distraction. The Saudi royal Family used it to distract its people from the outrage over the Hajj stampede. The Jordanian government used it to distract its people from their new minimum wage law demanded by their labor unions. The Syrian Government used it to create secterian division in Lebanon and change the focus on the Harriri murder. And, finally, the Egyptian government is using it to distract us while it passes through the new Judiciary reforms and Social Security Bill- which will cut over $300 million dollars in benefits to some of Egypt's poorest families. But, see, the people were not paying attention, because they were too busy defending the prophet by sending out millions of e-mails and SMS-messages, boycotting cheese and Lego and burning Butter and the danish Flag. Let's not even mention the idiots who went the usual route of "It's a jewish conspiracy", spouted the stupid argument about the Holocaust, or went on a diatribe with the old favorite "There is an organized campaign-headed by the west and the jews- to attack and discredit Islam, and we have to defend it". They proved, once again, that the arab world is retarded and deserves no better than its leaders.

 



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Originally posted by peacemaker peacemaker wrote:

ops154: One more thing, why no protests when your papers make fun of the Jews or Jesus? Kind of a double standard thing is it not?

We Muslims believe in all Messengers of Allah (God ), therefore, don't mock at any one of them. It is an important part of our faith that we respect them. Can you give any example where Muslims made fun of Jesus ( peace be upon him ).

I haven't found a single post or article here written by Muslims that condones violence or terrorism in the name of Islam. It is boycott that is being considered here. Can you show me one such article that condones violence?

Peace

 

 

It's not the stories the condone violence that I'm talking about, it the lack of the condeming stories. It's not only about this site, this site's articles are more about bashing(blaming) the US even though our government condemed the drawings. To see examples of this then go to the main page and pick a story.  I'm talking about the lack of protests against violence in the name of Islam. There are no mass protests against these things, only about some dumb cartoon drawings. Tell me this, if mahammad was walking the streets today what would he be protesting? Would it be a cartoon of him, beheadings of civilians in his name or dictatores that rule his people? I'm guessing it wouldn't be the cartoons. I ask christians the same thing when they are going against everything their god stands for, What would Jesus do if he was here. No one ever seems to get it though.

 

Edit: Yes I have seen many cartoons on arabnews.com. It's supposed to be a Saudi paper translated into English.



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ops154: Yes I have seen many cartoons on arabnews.com. It's supposed to be a Saudi paper translated into English.

You mean the cartoons mocked at Jesus (pbuh )??? Can you please give me link to that? Otherwise I would consider it as your attempt to defame Muslims and Islam.

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Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh,

For condemning the cartoons we have made an big meeting in Istanbul where some of you will know the square of Beyazit beside of Big Bazaar...it was really and good meeting that we have truly stated how a protest will be made in care inside the rules of Islam rather than firing the buildings...Alhamdulilah.....



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ops154: Yes I have seen many cartoons on arabnews.com. It's supposed to be a Saudi paper translated into English.

You mean the cartoons mocked at Jesus (pbuh )??? Can you please give me link to that? Otherwise I would consider it as your attempt to defame Muslims and Islam.

Peace

Well since I don't control that site or it's DAILY CARTOONS I can't direct you to one today. But keep looking at the site link I gave you www.arabnews.com and each day they have new cartoons. Today it may not but within a week I'm sure it will as it has in the past.

Is that the only thing from what I posted that you are willing to talk about? Nothing about the actual violence?



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ops154: Is that the only thing from what I posted that you are willing to talk about? Nothing about the actual violence?

I was actually pointing to your flawed statement made without due research as to what Islam stands for. Read my posts and many other posts that do not condone violence. Does all  this make headline anyway so the world could see?

By the way, none of more than 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet will ever mock at Jesus ( peace be upon him ) as you complain. You have no proof. If ever you have a proof, let me know that.

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