Conversion to Christianity

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

JazakAllah khair bro, my intention was only to put forward common practice druing the time of Sayyidina Muhammad (saw) (with exception of time of conquer of Makkah) and rightly guided caliphs (ra) and the only viewpoint of major Imams, for me our early scholars have more credibility so all i can say is Allah swt forgives everything other than shirk and we are responsible for our own belief system and deeds, as long as our intentions are for sake of Allah swt then khair inshaAllah

wassalam

Yes, Muhammad did forgive many who turned away from Islam and then returned. But ONLY if they returned within the grace period. If they did not, he either had them put to death or slayed them himself.

It is beyond me why you people keep denying this thing. From Suadi Arabia to Egypt to Turkey, Afganistan and Malaysia, the Imams and the Koranic scholars not only admit that any apostate deserves to be put to death, but they raise a ruckus in the newspapers when such action is not carried out by their government.

The Moderator of one of these groups insisted that those who acted and/or spoke in such a manner were not true Muslims. That the actions of these people were against the Koran. How then can it be that entire nations based on Shariah Law can belong to the same religion? It doesn't make any sense.

I would truly like to believe that the Muslims in this country are of a different reliigion than those tens of thousands in other lands, but I have seen little of any practical signs in that regard.

Art Scholbe, FArmington, MO

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

im sure this thing has capacity to go on forever, as one side will say it did happen only ...... the other side will be bring the proof and then some1 might say Sayyidina Muhammad (saw) gave exceptions due to this this this n no one after him did, then it will be, bring proof,

honestly speaking dont u think topic is too bigger for us lot, i dont thik anything is going to com out of it so why not spend ur time in learning an ayah or hadith r doing somethin solely for sake of Allah swt n makin better use of ur time inshaAllah

wassalam

artscholbe wrote: Yes, Muhammad did forgive many who turned away from Islam and then returned. But ONLY if they returned within the grace period. If they did not, he either had them put to death or slayed them himself. It is beyond me why you people keep denying this thing. From Suadi Arabia to Egypt to Turkey, Afganistan and Malaysia, the Imams and the Koranic scholars not only admit that any apostate deserves to be put to death, but they raise a ruckus in the newspapers when such action is not carried out by their government. The Moderator of one of these groups insisted that those who acted and/or spoke in such a manner were not true Muslims. That the actions of these people were against the Koran. How then can it be that entire nations based on Shariah Law can belong to the same religion? It doesn't make any sense. I would truly like to believe that the Muslims in this country are of a different reliigion than those tens of thousands in other lands, but I have seen little of any practical signs in that regard. Art Scholbe, FArmington, MO

This is simply not true. At the time of the Prophet(PBUH), some apostates were killed, others were not. Clearly apostasy was not the only criteria for their death.

There is nothing in the Quran that condemns apostates to death on this earth, rather it states quite clearly that those who turn from Allah(SWT) will be punished by Allah(SWT). It also states in the Quran that Allah(SWT) does not punish us twice for the same sin, so if apostates are to be punished by Allah(SWT), then ordering them to be put to death by men would be a double punishment.

If there are governments that are putting apostates to death based solely on apostasy then they are not following the Quran. Why are they doing this, who knows? In the New Testament it says to turn the other cheek and no longer follow the law of an eye for an eye, yet the Evangelical Christian president of the United States, who says he talks to God and vice-versa, and his Administration, falsified information to start a pre-emptive war, which has killed thousands of innocent Americans and Iraqis. Why? The Jews have herded an entire population into refugee camps and taken away their human rights, the Torah or the Talmud do not allow such things, yet the Israelis have done this because they say God gave them the land 3000 years ago. Why? How can it be that these Christians and Jews belong to the same religion that follow the teachings they are clearly going against?

Perhaps men have lost the ability to show mercy to each other. Their hearts have hardened to such an extent that they know longer follow the true path of God. There is no truly Islamic government and will not be until the time of the Mahdi, just as there is no truly Christian government, nor truly Judaic government. Men are flawed and their laws are flawed. Only the Laws of God are perfect, but flawed men have been left to follow them.