Orthodoxy Wins

Angela wrote: When an "Orthodox" Christian feels the need to bring up If I Could Hie to Kolob on AN ISLAMIC WEBSITE, there is only one reason to do it.  To try to discredit me and prove my faith wrong.

I saw a news article last week than I saved it because it sound so peculiar. Than Andalus post appear and I was thinking to make a comment on it. Now you going and the thread is lock. Anyway my best wishes for you. Both my comment and the article are below here:

If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye,
IF.  Yes why not - it is the best way to start an understanding.

And then continue onward with the speed of light to fly**,
D'ye think that you could ever, through all eternity,
Find out the generation where Gods began to be?
Finding the root by tracing backward from Z to A is always
the correct way.

Or see the grand beginning, where space did not extend?
"A singularity", according to astronomers.

Or view the last creation where Gods and matter end?
No, I dont think that can happen for us as long as an individual is concern. Only WE can view it.

Methinks the Spirit whispers, "No man has found 'pure space',"
Nor seen the outside curtains, where nothing has a place.
I am walking along fine so far. Somewhere in the Qur'an it stated that it is not fitting for God to speak unto mortal except from behind the veil.

The works of God continue, and worlds and lives abound;
He is ever living, always active. Islamically no slumber ever take place.

Improvement and progression have one eternal round.
There is no end to matter;
there is no end to space;
There is no end to spirit;
there is no end to race.

I am pretty much in agreement with reservation for the last three lines. I can't wrong him or right him.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_sc/mormon_crickets

Mon Apr 24 2006, 7:33 PM ET

RENO, Nev. - The threat of being eaten could drive the march of Mormon crickets as they munch their way across millions of acres in the arid West, new research suggests.

An international group of researchers has been studying the crickets that have invaded much of Nevada, Utah and Idaho in recent years.

They found that the insects that move in large bands survive on salt and protein found in seeds, flowers, dead animals and feces. But when those food sources are absent, the bugs turn to what's available - each other. The crickets themselves are "walking packages of protein and salt," the study said.

"We suspect that they also move more because of the chance of being eaten," said Patrick Lorch, a research biologist with Kent State University.

"You can imagine that if you are at the back of a band of 1 million marching crickets, there is little food left and the cricket in front of you starts to look mighty tasty," Lorch told the Reno Gazette-Journal.

Crickets slowed by injury are particularly vulnerable to being eaten by their brethren, researchers found.

Lorch was among researchers from the United States, England and Australia that conducted the study, published recently by the National Academies of Science.

Also known as flightless katydids, Mormon crickets can destroy 40 percent to 50 percent of the vegetation in their path. About 12 million acres were infested by the insects last year in Nevada.

Lorch said it's uncertain whether the danger of being eaten from behind really motivates the crickets at the head of the column to step up the pace. The insects are not cognizant, but the danger could be hard wired into their tiny brains, he said.

"We don't honestly know if they move faster than they would because of the fear of being eaten," Lorch said. "But that's the sort of thing we imagine is going on."

Assalamu Alaikum:

4) You sould have been allowed to bring up your faith. It is an interfaith dialogue forum. Moderation should never interfere with truth seeking. Sometimes the boundaries are blurred. Now that I know you are not comfortable with any discussion on Mormonism, I will not bring it up again. I am sorry, please forgive me. And I hope you will stay.

Angela was never asked not to bring up her faith, she chose not to out of respect. Her post deals rather with the fact that she has consistently been the target of others on the forum who mocked her and her beliefs. Because she has shown such respect towards Islam and sincerely tried to learn, other Christians have made it very difficult for her, even going so far as to send her harassing personal e-mails.

A few weeks ago the Moderators made it very plain that we would not allow these types of verbal attacks toward any individual or their beliefs.

You may find the Moderating heavy-handed, but when you are on the receiving end of these types of personal attacks, especially when you have done nothing to provoke it, then you might feel that the Moderators are not doing enough.

Angela, I am So sorry that this happened. Perhaps Andalus truly did not mean anything untoward.

Please rethink leaving the forum.

Salaams, Dwanna

Bismillah,

Brother Andalus,

Didn't you see the numerous, personal attacks earlier in the month?

Assalamu Alaikum!

Sister Angela:

 I hope that you would change your mind and stay here at the forum. I really feel sorry that you have been the target of personal attacks over the last couple of weeks. It is sad. Moderators are doing their best to stop this from happening so that everyone here can feel safe and learn. It is really a hard job to keep everyone happy, but yes, we try. In the process, if anything went wrong, I would like to apologize to you.

Brother Andalus:

 I greatly admire your knowledge and mastery over holy Scriptures. I used to visit sometimes your forum on yahoo group, Bismika Allahuma where you were moderator. I don't know if that yahoo group forum exists now. I wanted to visit there some time back, but couldn't. It seems you have a new site now. I wish that brother Menj is fine there. Please convey my regards and Salam to him. Brother, I am happy to see that you would not bring mormonism considering sensitivities of your fellow forum user. If you have any concern, you are always welcome to bring that in this section.

Our differences should make us stronger and better Muslims, and I think, that is the purpose behind any difference as far as our very creation is concerned. This is also an opportunity for us all  to reflect as to how our words and behaviour would affect other users, Muslims or non-Muslims.

I hope that after strife, there would be peace insha Allah.

May Allah guide us all.

Peace