Mary of the Quran

Ali Baba,

I am sorry to see you feel that way.

From you: "Yes, bmz, I quite understand you.  However, you tend to belittle people, and to seek support from those that post nonsence which is not backed up by any verifiable facts."

First and foremost, I am capable enough to discuss on my own and by now other friends and you must have noticed that I talk only from the Bible, The Jewish Tanakh and I do not quote from polemics. But when I read replies which make no sense or like you said Nonsense, then I criticise and use emoticons. Emoticons are good for my health and they are a good relief when used appropriately.  

"You see, bmz, it's one thing to say, Mohammed was the seal of the prophets, and quite another to prove it.  Christians believe that Jesus proved His mission and validated the results, by His resurrection from the dead.

That is what this forum is for! We are not here to convert each other. You make your point and we will make ours. There will be no conclusion and that is understood. I am all for a civil discussion and I am sure you have never seen any vulgarity about Jesus coming from me.  At the same time, I expect others to refrain from throwing any vulgarities on my dear and most beloved Prophet.

You can criticise Qur'aan and we will explain.

"In order to cut to the quick of Christian doctrine, non-Christians attempt to say that Jesus never died, or only appeared to do so.  Their arguments are hollow and filled with such non-veifiable baloney, that one wonders if they have any grasp of polemics at all."

I am more interested in the doctrine of Jesus direct from his mouth! I want to see the man Jesus as he explains himself in his own words, not by the words of men who debated who he was and his nature for 365-450 years. Those are all non-Muslim names.

"Now the title of this thread deals with Mary, and Mohammed's obvious blunder in calling the Mother of Jesus the sister of Aaron.  It was a mistake, and you people have been attempting to defend an obvious mistake for the last 1,500 years."

The problem is that people who are not aware of the Semitic languages and culture and know nothing about it. They just read in English and understand it as it is presented. Hebrew is the father language and two languages sprouted out from it. The Aramaic and the Arabic. We are in a better position to appreciate Hebrew and Aramaic.

I have already explained "Sister of Aaron" and that should have clarified. I will give you another example:

"Ali Baba, Oh the Son of Man, don't you understand such a simple thing?"   Now the "son of Man" or "Son of Man" or "son of man" or "Son of man" simply shows how a person was addressed. To us, it simply means "Eh! man" or "hey Man" which is commonly spoken all over the world in English.

All of us are here to argue, debate and discusss, NOT to agree with each other. It helps to know more about our religions. Take Trinity for example, todate I have not met any Christian who has fully understood it himself/herself. I have yet to find one and after discussing till the cows come back home, the final answer is "It is a matter of faith". Jesus was not a matter of faith. He was there and he spoke only of God. He was not praising himslef all the time, you know.

Simple, Mishmish!

Honestly, I don't know why the begtting of Joseph was so important?

I think it was just to connect Jesus somehow to David, who sat on the right hand of the Lord.

I have never liked the idea that God sat on the left hand of someone.

BR & Salaam Alaikum

BMZ