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Hi bmz, I think you are talking apples and oranges here.  Christians, of course, believe that God's Laws stand forever.  You will forever be measured by those laws to point out that you are NOT righteous.  That's why we need a Savior - to pay the price of our unrighteousness.

Regarding ceremonial laws and those pertaining to food, these were laws that were given to the Jews under the Old Covenant.  Christians, being under a new and better covenant (see Book of Hebrews) are no longer obligated to observe food restriction laws, or to perform Mosaic ceremonies.  We are free in Christ.

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Originally posted by Yankovich Yankovich wrote:

Hi bmz, I think you are talking apples and oranges here.  Christians, of course, believe that God's Laws stand forever.  You will forever be measured by those laws to point out that you are NOT righteous.  That's why we need a Savior - to pay the price of our unrighteousness.

Regarding ceremonial laws and those pertaining to food, these were laws that were given to the Jews under the Old Covenant.  Christians, being under a new and better covenant (see Book of Hebrews) are no longer obligated to observe food restriction laws, or to perform Mosaic ceremonies.  We are free in Christ.

I hope this is helpful.

 

Yank,

My Jew tells me that circumcision was only for the Jews as were the food laws.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yankovich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2006 at 10:20am
George, Yeah I'd agree with that thing about circumcision - since it was a sign of the Old Covenant, not the New.  Christians do not need to be circumcised ceremonially - in fact Paul counsels against it.
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george - one of these days im going to switch this thing on to find that all the threads have been started by - george, and that all the latest posts have been made by -george, i mean dont you have a job, or anything? - not that im objecting or anything
for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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Originally posted by fredifreeloader fredifreeloader wrote:

george - one of these days im going to switch this thing on to find that all the threads have been started by - george, and that all the latest posts have been made by -george, i mean dont you have a job, or anything? - not that im objecting or anything

 

George is prolific, don't you think? lol and obedient to the Master Lk 9:23

 

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Jesus has been here all along.  He is not a being persay but the entity of the Holy Spirit that was breathed into us all at our creation and this Holy Spirit demands we be Educated, Counseled, Consulted and strive in Jihad (Jihad means struggle and the first and most important level is the struggle with self, ie working on being a good person)

That is why Allah had the Angels bow down to us.

We have a high Station as gaurdians of each other and the world if only people understood this and strived towards this duty.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

 

 

 

Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8
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Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:

Jihad means struggle and the first and most important level is the struggle with self, ie working on being a good person

can we have a confirmation from the quran for this statement?

for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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Since you are a Christian Fundamentalist, Fredi,   I would not let you have something from Qur'aan but I can give you a very good example.

Jihad means struggle, to strive in the way of God and the best Jihadi, prior to Islam, was my dear Jesus. He carried out his Jihad for God Almighty, night and day.

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