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I just lovvvvved that, David. I want to play too, let me have more.

 



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Assalamualaikum Muslim brothers and sisters,and peace to thenon-muslims.
I will post a very interesting research done by prominent egyptian scholars about the Return of Jesus Christ. This will tell you that, the more you research the scenarios arising from his return, the more puzzles there are to solve. But i'll do this as soon as my last exam is over. However, I give you people a glimpse; Three major "Land/Earth slidings" will announce the Arrival of Jesus the Son of Mary. From the East, the West and somewhere in the middle east. Make Madinah the middle of the compass. The Tsunami was in the east. See the perfect east it makes from Madina to the Tsunami's epicenter. The earthquake in the West can be the San Andreas fault, and around the Middle East, north of Madinah, we have Istanbul. And remember, I SAID THREE MAJOR LAND SLIDINGS\EARTHQUAKES.
And We have not sent you(O Muhammad!) but as a mercy to the worlds. (Al-Quran 21: 107)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zulqarnain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2006 at 11:52pm
This research was done by MUSLIM EGYPTIAN SCHOLARS of course; (said to avoid further objections form the non-muslims)
And We have not sent you(O Muhammad!) but as a mercy to the worlds. (Al-Quran 21: 107)
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I think that Jesus will NOT return. He had completed his mission given to him by God. The Bible confirms that in his own words.

There is no prophecy in the OT or the Jewish Tanakh that the Messiah was to come, die, rise up, go back and come again.

 

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

I think that Jesus will NOT return. He had completed his mission given to him by God. The Bible confirms that in his own words.

<>There is no prophecy in the OT or the Jewish Tanakh that the Messiah was to come, die, rise up, go back and come again.
 


Completing his mission on earth does not mean that he will not return.  I have heard that the majority of Muslims believe that he will return.  I think their is a prophecy in the OT that says the Messiah was to "come, die, rise up."  I'm not sure about his second coming.  I'd have to investigate that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 5:47am

Thanks for saying this, Annie.

"I think their is a prophecy in the OT that says the Messiah was to "come, die, rise up."  I'm not sure about his second coming.  I'd have to investigate that."

If you find anything solid on that, please let me know.

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Those whom our text refers to as dogs and swine are those who scorn the truth and will hate you for reproving them. There is a difference between those who have not heard the truth and those who know but scorn the truth. Watch what it says in PRO 9:7-8, "He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot. Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee."

We must beware of the person who scorns God and holiness. Christ commands us not to cast holy things before him. Does this mean that the scornful person is never to be reproved? No. It means that when you see a scornful atmosphere, attitude, or spirit, quite often in God's own people, you must be careful what you say, when you say it, and how you say it lest you make them hate you. I've seen times that it was impossible to reprove one of God's dear children because they were in a wrong attitude. Quite often you must wait for the right time to reprove them.

We must be able to receive reproof as well as give it. Those who hate reproof are fools because God's Word commands us to reprove one another. You cannot reprove a fool because, "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise," PRO 12:15. When you and I cannot be reproved, we are acting foolishly because we forget that in a multitude of counsel there is wisdom. When we are so set in our own ways, and that way seems so right in our eyes, that we can't be told a thing, we are acting foolishly. Those who listen to counsel are wise.

PRO 15:5 says, "A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent." We are not to reprove those "fools" who despise instruction. We are not to cast that which is holy before such a person. "Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words," PRO 23:9. That does not mean we just turn them over to Satan without seeking and finding an opportunity to speak a word in season. "A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke," PRO 13:1. PRO 15:32 says, "He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding."

However, we don't answer a fool according to his folly. We don't answer a fool in such a way that we make him feel he is justified in his ways. ECC 7:5 says, "It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools," in other words, the boasting of those who are wise in their own ways.

Those dogs and swine spoken of in our text are those with whom you cannot share your pearls of self-knowledge as David spoke of in Psalm 51 because they would take your humble confessions and judge you vocally, going about as a barking dog, slandering your name. Remember, we considered Psalm 51 in the last sermon of how David's heart was prepared. He prayed that the Lord would give him an understanding of his own heart so he would be able to be a good reprover. When you come to those who would vocally judge you, in other words, going about as a barking dog slandering your name, you are to "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs..." You do not speak to a person in such a spirit the way David was speaking in Psalm 51. They would trample on it as happened to Mary Magdalene. She was humble and weeping over her sin, a contrite, loving sinner before Christ, but the Pharisee stood in his self-conceit, with a self-righteous beam in his eye, passing judgment.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Patty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 8:45am

Dear BMZ, you had asked for Old Testament scripture which tells of the second coming of Christ.  I have the following verses to offer you. Perhaps you will find them of interest.

Daniel 7:13-14 (King James Version) 

13  I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14  And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

I believe this is one of many verses to be found in the Old Testament which refers us to the second coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ. (The entire 7th Chapter of Daniel tells of the second coming, if you would like to check it out further.)

 

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