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Angel
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I couldn't agree more Edited by Angel |
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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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ughh. folk, i got confused in what i was asking.
yea, it's obvious that islam forbids zina, and that zina is the cause of most deseases. but these days, there are so many reverts/converts, so many muslims who did lots of sins before learning islam closer(take ex-ussr countries), so many muslims who are not muslims at all, etc. can we say that virginity in islam still keeps it's importance in such our time? |
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Suleyman
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As salamu Alaykum, Of course it has still the importance,but in the large arms of Islam there is so much place for who are not virgins but laterly who promised to obey Allah,of course some of them did not loose their virginity intentionally...in such our times!,new agers come from the darkness to Islam, also some of them became the candles of Islam...whoever we are,let's leave the past and see what we can do inside our new life,with Islam... I learnt ghusl and ablution at the second term of the university,imagine how Allah opened His arms to me while living in a muslim country hearing azaans four times a day(4 times because i was all sleeping at the fajr time)... Nobody should loose his hope from Allah,Allah knows the best... Edited by Suleyman |
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could it be meant that reverted(whoever) muslim nonvirgins shouldn't be treated as born muslim virgins?
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As Salamu Alaykum Sister I do not think so,all muslims are has the same worth on this earth,at the hereafter only Allah can judge who is worthful or not, we have no right to judge each others or establish some apolets,reverts has priorities,also born muslims have too...all blessings from Allah for balancing this world with Islam...feel the mission...take care... |
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Angela: I never claimed it was a gay disease, but it is more prevalent among homosexual men. There is a very real issue in the world today, at least in the African-American community here in the States, of men who are gay but do not consider themselves to be so (use bisexual if you prefer).... who have gay sex which their partners know nothing about and infect their partners. Many infectious disease experts feel that this accounts for the high rate of infection among heterosexual African-American women. The CDC is actually investigating this phenomenon to see how it has impacted the transmission rates. Yes, it can be gotten through heterosexual sex, tainted needles, blood transfusions, etc. But denying that gay sex is a transmission form is ignorant as well. The best form of prevention is to follow Allah's plan... remain a virgin until marriage and remain faithful to your marriage partner. Promiscuity is the issue with all STDs. And yes, anti-gay attitudes among Muslims can affect this as very few gay Muslim men that I know (and yes I do know some... and yes one can be gay and Muslim) are "out" to anybody in their family or community. The stigma is just too great. Remember, one can still be put to death or in jail for homosexual sex in most Muslim countries. Peace. Why the LDS quote? Do you really think that any Muslim who believes in one God, that God had know offspring, and that Muhammad (pbuh) was the last Prophet would ever believe in Joseph Smith or Bringham Young as a prophet? Edited by umsami |
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oh me silly girl. i'm shy to say this , but.. you won't believe what's my answer to my confused question. i've just found out that Zina is NOT a SIN for nonmuslims. . and as i had proposals mostly from nonmuslims, it was weird for me when i was questioned for the first time if i was a virgin or not. yeah, now you all know who is sister_m82 , a girl laughing at her own silliness. pray for me to gain more good knowledge. sorry
after some surfings in inet to find smth on this topic, only this text caught my attention: "Sex is a major component in most relationships. And part of finding Miss Right includes being with a person who has the same sexual mentality and physicality you do, regardless of their saintly or sordid past." Edited by sister_m82 |
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Of the estimated number of AIDS cases, person�s age at time of diagnosis were distributed as follows:
*Includes persons with a diagnosis of AIDS from the beginning of the epidemic through 2004.
Estimated numbers of diagnoses of AIDS, by race or ethnicity:
*Includes persons with a diagnosis of AIDS from the beginning of the epidemic through 2004.
AIDS Cases by Exposure Category Following is the distribution of the estimated number of diagnoses of AIDS among adults and adolescents by exposure category. A breakdown by sex is provided where appropriate.
*Includes persons with a diagnosis of AIDS from the beginning of the epidemic through 2004. The distribution of the estimated number of diagnoses of AIDS, among children*** by exposure categories follows:
*Includes persons with a diagnosis of AIDS from the beginning of the epidemic through 2004.
According to this website, the CDC, there were 24,777 reported cases of AIDS infection that were not contracted through Homosexual sex and only 17,691 that were that means that is NOT more prevailent in the homosexual community. Again, you are propogating a myth. AIDS is most commonly spread through unprotected sex....but that doesn't mean homosexual sex. The only way to be sure not to get AIDS is know ALL THE RISK FACTORS. Abstain from sex until marriage. Talk to your partner about AIDS and get tested. Don't do drugs and ask questions when getting tattoos and other medical procedures. If you know you've got an upcoming elective surgery. Donate Blood and have it kept for transfusion back into you at the surgery, or have family donate blood.
As for the LDS quote. I'm LDS, so its my quote for now....I change periodically. Do you find fault with what Joseph is saying here? Has he said anything that is counter to the truth? If God requires it, can it be bad?????? I rather like the quote. You don't have to accept Joseph Smith, I'm not here to proselyte. But he is one of MY Prophets and I would ask that you respect my choice and let the matter drop. |
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