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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Muslima Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:00am

This is the reason we need to educate people in those countries and in our countries too.

I think people are more educated than before and they are changing a lot more.

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i've read some and talked some and seen some related people to this in my area. and you know what, i think this problem is made by muslims themselves. they themselves made FARE skinned girls (and nonmslim) qweens, and fare skinned men (reverted/etc) kings, even if they are uneducated fat naughty etc, it's only they got blue eyes and blond. what a bull****. i dunno, while there are so lots of black people in america doing leadership among fare skined people, why it is so big problem among musslims. i thought it's the problem of only nonmuslims. but after starting talking online with muslims, i'm really astonished by this.
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I'm a very fair-skinned, blue eyed blond American female.  When I was young I dated both an Arab and a Black military officer.  In high school I dated young men of all races.  There is nothing wrong with different races dating, marrying, and having beautiful children.  Many of my friends have done so, and have very happy and stable marriages.  For those who disagree, I see that as their problem, no matter what country they live in or what religion they belong to.  This is just plain old ignorance to think it is wrong to have interracial marriages, imo.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hayfa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2006 at 11:29am

I think people tend to gravitate towards thier own "culture" which is partially due to societal pressures and also a loack of critcal anaylsis.

I visited a friend from another cutlure for a few days. They were a decent Islamic household. And their actions were cultural. For instance: having 5 course meal with tea at 1am! (Now try and get up for morning prayers going to bed at that hour??). How we act, dress, food, language all makes people fee like they have a place, an identity. This is good for community but needs balance as to remember the greater meaning in a wider world. Most of us are not isolated. We live in a diverse and dynamic world. No culture has a monopoly on the good and correct way to be. Being exposed is not a bad thing to open up horizons and for self-growth. We have minds we should use them, in halal ways of course.

 

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Originally posted by schwester schwester wrote:

i've read some and talked some and seen some related people to this in my area. and you know what, i think this problem is made by muslims themselves. they themselves made FARE skinned girls (and nonmslim) qweens, and fare skinned men (reverted/etc) kings, even if they are uneducated fat naughty etc, it's only they got blue eyes and blond. what a bull****. i dunno, while there are so lots of black people in america doing leadership among fare skined people, why it is so big problem among musslims. i thought it's the problem of only nonmuslims. but after starting talking online with muslims, i'm really astonished by this.


oh sorry..i think, i turned to the wrong side. this should be under a thread about the problem of dark skinned people. just on another forum i've read that it's so difficult, almost impossible to find a nice job in Arabic countries like Saudi or UAE for those who have dark skin. stupid. and my friend who's in US says that it's so scary to pass by black people especially when you're in a place where only black people gahter. so it makes scary to love a blackman?
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Dear Schwester, you said this:

"and my friend who's in US says that it's so scary to pass by black people especially when you're in a place where only black people gahter. so it makes scary to love a blackman? "

I think your friend must have gone into a "ghetto", which is very unsafe.  It is usually inhabited by the poor, drug addicted, alcoholic and violent gangs.  There are white slums too....and no one who cares for their own safety would ever want to go there either.  They are usually referred to as 'inner city' areas and they are quite dangerous to walk around in alone. 

But they are very easily avoided, and the rest of the cities are quite nice and pleasant.  This is where your friend should be visiting.

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Originally posted by Jenni Jenni wrote:

Israfil, I think you might find it interesting that in Muslim countries
like Pakistan, Iran and even Arab countries that the more white you are
the more attractive you are considered to be. It is much harder for
example in Pakistan for� a girl or even a guy to get married to
someone if they are very dark complected. And if you have a child that
is very dark people will comment, or poor child they are so black. The
whole thing makes me sick, a woman could be totally beautiful but if
her complection is dark, most wouldn't notice it. It just shows you sad
thier culture is and thier love of white skin causes them to be so
shallow. Things are changing a little, very slowly. Inshalla people
will wake up and know that this discrimination is a sin, most people in
the world aren't white, I don't know why some who are not whish they
were, so sad... Peace


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hmm

"and my friend who's in US says that it's so scary to pass by black people especially when you're in a place where only black people gahter. so it makes scary to love a blackman? "

I think your friend must have gone into a "ghetto", which is very unsafe.  It is usually inhabited by the poor, drug addicted, alcoholic and violent gangs.  There are white slums too....and no one who cares for their own safety would ever want to go there either.  They are usually referred to as 'inner city' areas and they are quite dangerous to walk around in alone. 

We tend to associate poor, inner-city with danger and bad people. And this in this country is associated with black people. Through media, etc, I have seen many people either from the suburbs or immigrants think that poop=black=dangerous.

I go everywhere by bus in my city-Washington DC. Many times the buses go through less-developed areas. Many people would be afraid to be there. But alas I never have a day of trouble. Whereas my friend's father was murdered in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods. In a "good" neighborhood.

I have heard racist comments by many immigrants regarding black people. Their perception is through what they see on TV News.

I agree there are white slums as well but that is not what people think.

Having taught self-defense to many people, the reality of the situation is often different then what is the perception. Most people will be a victim of crime by someone from their own ethnic group.

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