Nasakh - Sharia - Fiqh

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

Sister if you call Allah swt your Lord then you have to have faith that punishments ordained by Him are best for the soul. Now i am seriously asking you if you have ever met mother of a little kid who was murdered. I have seen mother of a kid who was killed in a road accident because the driver was on the phone and speeding. He dint do it on purpose but still he killed some1 due to his carelessness. After he was given punishment for 7 years, this lady cried on air. She said what sort of justice is this? This was not an intentional murder but there were demonstrations for severe punishment. Now think of people whose loved ones get brutaly murdered with a motive. This religion of ours is the essence of human nature. Allah swt left both options open for people to choose. If you have compassionate heart then forgive but there is option of punishment as well. People who lose a part of themselves through their kids find it very hard to forgive majority of times.

Now second rule of cutting hands, countries of middle east have lowest burglery record. Almost every1 who has come back from dubai praises this law as they know that if they loose something on the way one day, they going to find it as no one dares to pick some1 else's stuff. Islam makes sure that every body's belonging are safe. Cutting hand is not easy option for authority either, in it is a test for both common folk and governing bodies. Any body whose hand is cut get support from govt for basics of life.

Lastly stoning, Allah swt knows through His complete knowledge that even a slightest lineancy in this could damage the whole society. Due to this homes are destroyed, kids dont have proper bringing up, psychlogical problems arise, drugs, violence and all that is some what direct or indirect result of bad childhood.

I am sure support, shelter homes and every thing like that might seems to be helping on the surface. But its like trying to cure juandice of a cancer patient and ignoring the root cause of it.

Sister obedience to the laws of Allah swt is His right. There is a reason and greater wisdom behind every single matter. Us humans have a limited knowledge and sight, when Allah swt ordered those matter, He knew that one wrong leads to next and eventually to a total chaos in society.

Its also strange that we find it in our heart, love, compassion and respect for our fellow human beings and their decisions but not for The Most Compassionate.

wassalam

amlhabibi2000 wrote:   Sharia is supposed to be the Law Allah gave, however I do not believe Allah would ask anyone to beat, stone, hang, torture, maim anyone it just does not make sense.

You are welcome to your opinions. But opinions and conjecture are meaningless. What makes no sense is you attempt to assert your personal feelings onto Gd.

aml wrote: Jesus forbade people stoning anyone and said He who is without sin caste the first stone.  He implied we should forgive the sins of others that we be forgiven.

The Quran nor the reliable hadith have such a teaching. You cannot use the bible to derive religous law.

Furthermore, the NT account of this story is placed in great doubt given that this event seems to have suddenly appeared in "later" manuscripts, but seems to be missing from the earlier ones. This story is a later addition.

aml wrote: One has to understand the time the laws were created and in todays world stoning anyone one is not true justivce Education, Counseling and Consultation are.

aml, you are simply ignorant. Ignorant in every way; theologically, religously, and non-religously.

You are a part of a "cult" like group, this is obvious due to your continued "programmed" responses...."education counseling consultation". It has become the foundational "mantra" for the entire volume of convoluted nonsense you put here on this forum. 

If you are willing to override Gd with your "mantra", then this sums up your complete and utter ignorance and twisted understanding of Islam, theology, and the world.

aml wrote: When it comes to issues of cutting off a hand again in todays world true justice is Education, Counseling and Consultation that is why we need an Inter Faith Education, Counseling and Consultation Jihad to turn some out dated laws into true justice.

This is your programmed response, once again. You are too convoluted to even have a rational discussion at even a crude level.

aml wrote: I have a beef with Sharia law because Allah also says it is best to forgive.

And yet another senseless, and nonsensical assumption.

Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]: 4953

Islam is not ment to be a religion or a way of life that condone slaughter when remediation may be done and the bad behavior corrected thus saving a soul, family, community and Nation and World.

There is great hope and it is in Islam a peaceful loving Islam not an Islam of violence, ignorance or apathy.

Inshallah there will be a great sorting out into resolution and skills training groups to learn the skills we need to be loving, caring compassionate people, all Muslims everyone at their roots.

A religion should inspire hope not fear.

Hope open the doors to the soul and inspires people that they can and do make a difference and that our voice counts in this world and the here after.

It would indeed be a blessing if technical Muslims everywhere said salam alaikoam to all whom they meet as I said we are all Muslims, all 10 Billion and counting and inshallah we will all enjoin together on this Inter Faith Education, Counseling and Consultation Jihad of which the first and most important level is working on being the best person we can be and inspire others to be their best too.

Salam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi