Is the Koran Counted?

JohnDM wrote: Is the sacred Koran a very specific number of letters or words?

Though we know that quran is perfectly preserved in its original form as it was revealed to prophet Mohammad, hence all chapters and verses are pre-fixed and no addition or removal from it in any stage or at any time, yet we don't give any significance to the numbers as that the one you have shown examples from Torah etc. Quran has no mysertious effects or powers associated with its number of occurances of words or letters. There is no hidden message in it. Its book of open guidance in our practical life. We read it, understand it and then try to implement it in our day to day life. 

The Jews are very careful about the number of letters in the Torah. There are 304,805 letters in the Torah. The reference number for an elohim is 323 (17 x 19) The reference number for the Order of Melchizedec is 318. Take the Torah, the Word of God at 304,805 x the elohim 323 x the elohim 323 is the Order of Melchizedec at 3.18000008e+10 So by some simple arithmetic, �Number Form Follows Measurement Function� and seen is the Order of Melchizedec.

Very strange arguments of preservation. However, do they know the authors of their all scriptural books? What if modern research proves beyond doubt that certain portions of the books they have are later additions into them. Wouldn't that fact break away all your numerical calculations?

And the Christians are part of a New Priesthood. �but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.� Hebrews 7:26

This is one classical example of anonymous books in Christian scriptures by their own acknowledgement and yet I see you refering from it. Shouldn't you need to revise your calculations to see what comes out when you take this part of scripture out of your calculations? I would be surprised if your result remain unaffected.

So if the Koran is counted I can consider it carefully number-wise. JohnDM

For that you have to learn arabic. Wait a minute, did you learn aramic to conclude anything from Christian scriptures? Shouldn't you? As this was the spoken language of Jesus. So could you trust your numbers if your calculations are all based on english translational Bible? Or have you done it in Greek language knowing that the origin of these bibles is Greek and not the Aramic? Then you must have been doing some celtic research and not what Jesus had said about God. BTW, do you know Greek language as I read that not many people know anymore of this language either what to talk about knowing Aramic?

A Torah Scroll is disqualified if even a single letter is added. Every letter must have sufficient white space surrounding it. If one letter touched another in any spot, it invalidates the entire scroll. And If a single letter was so marred that it cannot be read at all, or resembles another letter (whether the defect is in the writing, or is due to a hole, tear or smudge), this invalidates the entire scroll. Each letter must be sufficiently legible so that even an ordinary schoolchild could distinguish it from other, similar letters. And also a Torah Scroll in which any mistake has been found, cannot be used, and must be fixed within 30 days, or buried. There are 304,805 letters in the Torah. �And the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) went out and joined together in battle in the Valley of Siddim against Chedorlaomer king of Elam, Tidal king of *nations, Amraphel king of Shinar, and Arioch king of Ellasar--four kings against five. Now the Valley of Siddim was full of asphalt pits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled; some fell there, and the remainder fled to the mountains. Then they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their provisions, and went their way. They also took Lot, Abram's brother's son who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed. Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by *the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram. Now when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his three hundred and eighteen trained servants who were born in his own house, and went in pursuit as far as Dan. He divided his forces against them by night, and he and his servants attacked them and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus. So he brought back all the goods, and also brought back his brother Lot and his goods, as well as the women and the people.� Genesis 14:8-16

It really looks impressive for the preservation of Jewish scriptures whatever they have it now, but alas, they themselve know that whatever they have is not fully authentic what to talk of fully complete. Whatever, they are doing is encouraging for not letting it more degrade, but the fact remains they have already lost it, in what proportion, no body knows. Based on imcomplete scripture, it doesn't seem unreasonable to doubt your analysis as well.

 

     
The Library of the Goat Elohim - The new Alexandria Library

"On the shores of the Eastern Harbour, where under-water archaeologists
currently seek the palace of Cleopatra and where, only last year, part of
the ancient library was discovered, a 160m-wide shining disc seems to be
rising, aslant like a silvery sun, out of the Mediterranean. It is the
culmination of an idea mooted in 1974, which became reality when, in
October 2002, the new Bibliotheca Alexandrina opened its doors..."

The official website gives the circular library a 160 meter diameter and
an 80 meter depth.

This means the diameter is 6,300 inches wide and 3,150 inches deep.

The Ancient Egyptian god Anubis who wears the mask of a jackal gives
himself the reference number 63 for the gestation period of the jackal.

Thus Anubis a god of the dead, a navigator of souls is seen in the library,
to such an extent it could be called the 'Library of the Dead'.

Now the business of simple arithmetic reveals things that nothing else
can. OK, the Niche in the Qeen's Chamber of the Great Pyramid is 16.15
feet high and that is 6 lots of 32.3 inches, so in the Niche once stood the
statue of a mighty elohim, an Alien.

The circular library at 6,300 inches x a depth of 3,150 inches gives a
volume of 9.819200000e+10 cubic inches.

And this is equivalent to an elohim at 323 (17 x 19 an Angel of Death) x
the Goat at 152,000,000 x 2 lots.

Or it is equivalent to the Serpent at 1,700 (goddess of Delta Egypt), x
Death at 1900 x 1900.

Thus Anubis would be very much at home in the new library.

The sun of Ptolemy's library rises anew
By Teresa Levoni
Published: May 18 2005 03:00

In this city, Herophilus first suggested that blood circulates through the
body, 1,700 years before Harvey. Here Aristarchus posited that the earth
revolves around the sun, anticipating Copernicus by 1,800 years.
Hipparchus measured the solar year to within 6_ minutes of accuracy, and
Eratosthenes ascertained that the world was round 1,700 years before
Columbus, and calculated the Earth's circumference with an error of only
50 miles. Archimedes studied hydraulics and gave us his eponymous
screw, still used to irrigate Egypt today, and Euclid wrote his Elements of
Geometry, to be the bane of schoolboys ever since.

Such were the scholars who inhabited the city founded by Alexander the
Great in 331BC, which still bears his name. They were drawn by the
greatest library in the world, repository of some 700,000 books in the
form of scrolls, which contained, it was said, the sum of the world's
knowledge. Yet today few visible signs remain of Alexandria's glory days,
of the reign of the Ptolemies, the Greek dynasty established by Alexander.
The great Pharos lighthouse, one of the seven wonders of the world, was
destroyed by earthquakes in the Middle Ages; the Brucheion, the
Ptolemaic royal quarter, has fallen into the sea. Most famously vanished is
the great library of Alexandria, in circumstances that are still
controversial.

The library was conceived by Ptolemy I around 295BC, and the blame for
its destruction is most commonly laid at the door of Julius Caesar, who in
48BC accidentally set the building ablaze while attacking the fleet of
Cleopatra's brother. What books remained, housed in the daughter library
of the Temple of Serapis, were torched in the fourth century by the
Christian zealots of the patriarch Theophilus. The catastrophe was
symbolic as much as cultural. To replace such a lost treasure seemed an
impossible dream.

On the shores of the Eastern Harbour, where under-water archaeologists
currently seek the palace of Cleopatra and where, only last year, part of
the ancient library was discovered, a 160m-wide shining disc seems to be
rising, aslant like a silvery sun, out of the Mediterranean. It is the
culmination of an idea mooted in 1974, which became reality when, in
October 2002, the new Bibliotheca Alexandrina opened its doors.

The architectural competition for the new library, organised by Unesco in
1988, attracted 1400 entrants from 77 countries. It was won by a small
Norwegian firm, Snhetta. Italian, British and Egyptian firms collaborated in
the construction. International teams of experts were dragooned into
working on different aspects of the complex, which includes museums
and galleries, research institutes and auditoria - all connected beneath an
open plaza studded with statuary and bisected by a slim pedestrian
bridge. There is also a planetarium, a free-floating neon-lit sphere
redolent of an orbiting planet to the library's sun. The whole is
encompassed by a pool of water and a huge, circular granite wall of 6,000
un-polished slabs, carved with symbolic letters from 120 known scripts.

In the same spirit of co-operation, 30 countries and institutions,
including Arab states, Unesco and computer companies, provided finance
to the tune of $100m. This was not nearly enough, as it turned out. The
project came in at a massive $220m, the cost of a Herculean feat of
engineering that burrows 18 metres below ground, close to the the
Mediterranean, and a dramatic design that spares no expense.

In a nod to the spirit of Islamic architecture, however, the library's lobby
is modest. It offers no clue to what lies beyond the threshold: the largest
open-access reading room in the world, the size of New York's Grand
Central Station.

As you stand on the Callimachus balcony, a glass platform shaped like a
ship's prow, named in honour of the ancient librarian who introduced
cataloguing by subject and author, seven of the Library's 11 floors are
seen to cascade below, as though seeking their level in the Mediterranean
beyond. It is a lake of north American oak, contained within walls of shiny
black Zimbabwean granite.

Supported by 98 concrete pillars suggesting lotus flowers, the glazed
slanting roof, futuristically streaked with blue and green tubes of light,
infuses the space with indirect natural light. Furniture is ergonomic,
desks are inlaid with leather. There are specialist libraries for children,
Braille and multimedia, and an internet archive of 10bn pages.

Yet despite the high ideals of the venture, and the 1m visitors who have
already admired this landmark building on tours conducted in six
languages, the value of a library ultimately lies in the materials it
contains. The director Dr Ismail Serageldin's dream that the library should
foster a "dialogue of cultures to promote understanding and mutual
enrichment" could prove difficult to realise in a country where freedom of
expression remains a thorny issue. We are assured that censorship does
not extend to the Bibliotheca Alexandrina. "Our policy," states the
external relations department, "is that even if a book is banned or
censored for the public, the library would still retain a copy or copies for
research purposes."

Leaving aside what constitutes "research", of more immediate concern is
the paucity of books. The metal stacks, which stand ready to
accommodate 8m volumes, currently hold 350,000, with the cash-
strapped Egyptian government depending largely on donations to fill its
shelves. Faced with a similar dilemma 2,200 years ago, Ptolemy III came
up with an ingenious strategy: every visitor to Alexandria had to yield up
his books to scribes, who made copies. The copies were returned to the
owners, while the originals found their way into the ancient library's
cupboards. It was a solution of beautiful simplicity - but there are limits
to how far the 21st-century library can dare to emulate its illustrious
predecessor.

Counting the Cost

Those of us who saw the courtroom drama in the 1992 movie "A Few
Good Men," will recall a few lines of dialogue between the army camp
commandant Colonel Jessup (played by Jack Nicholson) and the young
naval attorney Kaffee (played by Tom Cruise):

Col. Jessup: You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled.
Col. Jessup: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth!
Col. Jessup: You can't handle the truth!

And that�s where it�s at, for some Americans cannot handle the truth of
that indicated above. Especially religious Americans

United States flag law does not specify the proportions of the flag. The
proportions of 10:19, so often quoted, are the product of an Executive
Order of the President, and are actually binding only in certain military
uses. And please note the United States Government buys and uses flags
in several other proportions (2:3, 3:5, 5:8) for numerous civilian and
military applications. Private citizens are free to use their own judgment.
.� http://fotw.vexillum.com/flags/us-size.html

So President Dwight D. Eisenhower�s 50 state official flag of the United
States of America has a ratio of 10/19.

And the Stars and Stripes at a 10/19 ratio, can have a depth of its field at
60 units and a field length, a fly, at 114 units, thus an area of 6,480
square units. The perimeter of the this flag is 348 units that is �Four
Crowns� each at 87 units.

And the Stars and Stripes at 6,840 x 2 is the North 'Twin Tower' at 1,368
feet.

And now to show you how 4 Eyes of Horus at 126 each and 17 for the
Serpent goddess of Delta Egypt comes out of the Stars and Stripes.

Take the Goat at 1.520000e+70 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 is the Stars and Stripes at
6.840000e+70 and /2 and square root twice x 12 and square root and
cube root and /Pi and x 32 x 32 is equivalent to 17 x 12.6 x 12.6 x 12.6
x 12.6000080

So Number Form Follows Measurement Function.

John D.M

PS

Thoth, Hermes Trismegistus

According to a very old Masonic tradition, the Egyptian god Thoth had
played a major part in preserving knowledge of the craft of Freemasony
which he gave to humankind after the Deluge.

The name Thoth means 'Truth' and 'Time'. Thoth was the Master architect
who created the blueprint of our reality based on the mathematics of
sacred geometry.

Thoth was the 'One who Made Calculations Concerning the Heavens, the
Stars and the Earth', the 'Reckoner of Times and of Seasons', the one who
'Measured out the Heavens and Planned the Earth'. He was 'He who
Balances', the 'God of the Equilibrium' and 'Master of the Balance'.

Thoth was 'The Lord of the Divine Body', 'Scribe of the Company of the
Gods', the 'Voice of Ra', the 'Author of Every Work on Every Branch of
Knowledge, Both Human and Divine', he who understood 'all that is
hidden under the heavenly vault'.

Thoth was not just a scribe and friend to the gods, but the organizer of
order both in Egypt and in the Duat. He was 'He who Reckons the
Heavens, the Counter of the Stars and the Measurer of the Earth'.

The magical powers of Thoth were so great, that the Egyptians had tales
of a 'Book of Thoth', which would allow a person who read the sacred
book to become the most powerful magician in the world. The Book
which �the god of wisdom wrote with his own hand� was, though, a deadly
book that brought nothing but pain and tragedy to those that read it,
despite finding out about the �secrets of the gods themselves� and �all
that is hidden in the stars�.

The Mystery of Hermes Trismegistus, the �three-times great�, was
described by Greek and as the Roman mystics in documents loosely
attributed to the Egyptian god Thoth.

Ancient Egyptians believed that before the dead could enter the
Afterworld their hearts were weighed against a feather of truth to
determine whether they had led good and honest lives. In his role as
scribe, Thoth recorded the results of each judgment.

The ibis god is now normally known by the Greek word Thoth, the ibis-
headed god, the Messenger of the Sun god Ra. Ra sent for the god Thoth
and invited him to go to the Other World where he had determined to
make his light to shine. Ra told Thoth to write down on his tablets the
names of all those who were therein and he gave to Thoth the power to
deal absolutely with all the beings in the Other World. Thoth was to be his
vicar. He gave Thoth the power to send out a messenger and so the ibis
came into being. He gave Thoth the power to embrace the heavens so the
Moon came into being. One further characteristic of Thoth remains to be
noted and is that made known to us by the XCVth Chapter of the Book of
the Dead wherein he says "I am he who sendeth forth terror and wields
the knife in the powers of rain and thunder".

The ibis bird has an incubation period of between 28 and 29 days, so a
reference number at 28.5 (source, the Zoological Society of London). And
28.5 x 120 is 3420 and x 4 is the North Tower at 1368 feet.

The Egyptian plane crash and the new Egyptian Library

It was nearly two hours after midnight October 31st 1999; and it was dark
outside the Boeing 767 of EgyptAir Flight 990 that was on a scheduled
flight from New York to Cairo, an aircraft that was soon and very
mysteriously to crash into the sea some 60 miles off Nantucket Island,
Massachusetts, killing all 217 people onboard. After spending more than
$13 million on the crash, the National Transportation Safety Board
investigators have determined that there is no evidence that would
indicate mechanical failure, and determined the co-pilot, Gamil el-
Batouty, deliberately crashed the aicraft, committing suicide and
murdering 216 people. The reason for suicide they say is compounded by
Gamil Batouty's last words, and according to investigators, were a Muslim
prayer in Arabic, "I rely on Allah " and said 11 times before the aircraft
crashed.

The EgyptAir plane was named �Thutmosis II� after a pharaoh who ruled
Egypt around 1450BC but he was not the Pharaoh of the Exodus in
1441BC. EgyptAir not only named their aircraft after pharaohs, and the
icon of the ancient Egyptian falcon headed god Horus, the son of Osiris
and Isis, the �Lord of the Air� is painted on the tails of the planes.

The Egyptian investigators have been trying to explain why, at 33,000
feet, the Boeing 767�s autopilot was shut off, its throttles cut back and
the elevators on the tail initiated a steep descent and then climbed again
before crashing into the sea. They are sure

Flight data recorder (FDR) and radar data indicated that the airplane
leveled at its assigned altitude of 33,000 feet at 01:44:27am. At 01:47:
19am the captain of EgyptAir Flight 990 was instructed to change radio
frequencies for better communication coverage. At 01:48:40am about 11
seconds after the captain left the cockpit, the CVR and 21 seconds later
the co-pilot quietly stated, "I rely on Allah." There were no sounds or
events recorded by the flight recorders that would indicate that no
unusual circumstance preceded the co-pilot�s statement strange
statement. At 01:49:48am the co-pilot stated quietly, "I rely on Allah." At
01:49:54am the FDR recorded an abrupt nose-down elevator movement
and a very slight movement of the inboard ailerons. Subsequently, the
airplane began to rapidly pitch nose down and descend. Between 01:49:
57am and 01:50:05am the co-pilot quietly repeated, "I rely on Allah,"
seven additional times. The captian having returned to the cockpit at 01:
50:06am the CVR recorded the captain shouting, "What's happening?
What's happening?,"

During this time and while the captain was still speaking at 01:50:07am,
the co-pilot stated for the tenth time, "I rely on Allah." According to the
CVR and FDR data, at 01:50:08am as the airplane exceeded its maximum
operating airspeed, a master warning alarm began to sound. Also at 01:
50:08am the co-pilot stated quietly for the eleventh and final time, "I rely
on God," At 01:50:15am the captain again asked, "What's happening?�
What's happening?" At this time, as the aircraft was descending through
about 27,300 feet and the FDR recorded both elevator surfaces beginning
to move in the nose-up direction. Shortly thereafter, the aircraft�s rate of
descent began to decrease. At 01:50:21am about 6 seconds after the
aircraft's rate of descent began to decrease, the left and right elevator
surfaces began to move in opposite directions. The aircraft was obviously
out of control. Between 01:50:31am and 01:50:37am the captain
repeatedly stated, "Pull with me." However, the FDR data indicated that
the elevator surfaces remained in a split condition (with the left surface
commanding nose up and the right surface commanding nose down). The
FDR and CVR stopped recording at 01:50:36am and 01:50:38am
respectively. The radar station�s last communication was at 01:50:34am.
So in three minutes, the Egyptian co-pilot Gamil el-Batouty recited eleven
time a Muslim prayer: "Tawakilt ala Allah," which has been variously
translated as "I entrust myself to God" and "I put my faith in God's hands".

The question one should ask is, �Was the cockpit voice recorder edited?
Because it was reported by two eyewitnesses from a nearby island that
they saw a UFO alongside EgyptAir Flight 990 just before the plane
crashed.

So it seems that the Aliens attacked the passenger plane.

OK, so counting backwards from a most important time marker of the last
500 years, that is 12:00:01am September 11, 2001 to 1:49:37am October
31, 1999 (At 01:49:48am the co-pilot stated quietly, "I rely on Allah") it is
680.4082667 days.

And 680.4082667 days x 10 and square root is 82.4868636 cubic feet
the external volume of the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber when new,
and as a single block of red granite at 89.62 x 38.5 x 41.31 inches.

And the sarcophagus at 82.4868636 cubic feet and squared and cubed
twice is equivalent to the Goat elohim at 1.52000e+30 x 170 x 190 x 2 at
9.81920000e+34.

And so the Serpent at 1.700000e+30 x Death at 190 x Death x 190 x 16
lots is again 9.81920000e+34.

And the number 9.8192000e+10 and /Pi and cube root is 3,149,9868
inches is 80 meters is the radius and the depth of the new library.

So the 'Library' came out of the sarcophagus, and EgyptAir Flight 990 was
attacked by a powerful Alien force.

Sad