Post Partum Depression

Peace Maker

I have read your post regarding the rules and will abide by them.  I honestly did not think the books by Ibn Waraqa were Islam bashing books. The websites you have a good point about, but the books are  not people ranting and raving, brother the majority of his books are quoting scripture, classical references, and written in conjunction with other scholars.

I do believe the Anti-Islam bashers can help us.  I recall a bible verse that says " keep your enemies closer than your friends."  Well, if Muslims are sincere about researching the reasons for apostation, and are sincere about wanting to reverse this, they are going to half to get their hands dirty, and play in the mud.  You can do anything about what you wont acknowledge? Their arguements, positions, and feelings are not invaluable or worthless, they are still Allah's slaves no matter how much they reject Allah, it is to him they will return, just like you and I.

Salaam

I believe it is not the stay at home mum issue but thinking that you need to do all, be a superwoman is more like it. - Angel

A mind is a terrible thing to waste hunh?

Sister let me clarify what I meant in what you quoted me on.

What I found during our mother's group research on this issue was that the stay at home mother who is always the primary care taker shouldering home and children while her husband pushes sixty hours a week seems to be limited to Europe and the North America's- and than, not all of Europe. In other nations it appears they still use the village system to care for mother and child. They still believe women need women.

And the superwoman issue.. boy oh boy..

You know what I find interesting sister?

In underdeveloped countries the women actually are doing it all. And proubably then some. Unlike us not all of them have an I-Pod, Sears washer and dryer, and a 2006 Mini Van.

My experience is most related to West Africa.

Many of I guess what we may call "working class" women are farming, mothering, cleaning, cooking, sewing all of the families clothes, and some are going to school on top of all this. But becuase there is a national consensus for that, women take care of other women, and the village system is effective.

For European and North American women we are missing the village system, and the sisterhood of women caring for women. I believe that is why there are so many mothers groups is becuase people are trying to form the modern equivalent of an agrian society again.

Salaam

Assalamu Alaikum,

najamsahar:

"Four women that I know on a personal basis, thus being very sure of what I am saying apostasted. I dont know what you mean by references, do you want their names?"

By references I meant links to reliable sources such as web site links where I could study further on the matter.