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Assalamu Alaikum,

I visit a mosque in my neighborhood where people from all backgrounds and colors, born and revert, all kinds of Muslims come over there and greet each other.

Masha Allah, there is also a very good center that functions soley to support new reverts.

True, we need to have many more such mosques/centers to fullfil the growing requirement.

True, there are problems. And I think as to how solutions could be found in the best possible way.

May Allah guide us all.

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Salaam

Sister Hanan I love your village idea, it kind of conjures up images of the Amish communities in the United States. I'm too far from one myself.

Brother Peace M here are some ideas:

Sensitivity training should be required for all clergy, leadership, administrators, social workers, volunteers, and dawah workers.

Sensitivity Training In These Areas:

  • Refuting the negative images or beliefs that all North American and European Female reverts are harlots comming from brothels and that we are in need of their saving grace.- We are not-
  • Refuting the negative images of beliefs that all people from the African disporia are uneducated, ignorant, unemployed, on welfare, gang bangers, theives, crack heads, and are the cursed descendants of Ham.
  • Refuting the erroneous belief that reverts are in need of life makers, and should be treated as children at all times.
  • Keeping politics out of the Masjid especially the Musullah.
  • Be aware that "family" means different things to different people. Wether a revert was raised by a single parent, grand parent, adoptive parent, foster parent, or guardian doesn't make them " bastard children who will have more bastard children." Understanding that some reverts have no family because their families are dysfunctional and dangerous to their personal health and well being.
  • Common courtsey for those who are not Medical doctors, Engineers, or other professionals. Not interrogating people about their income, educational background, and social prospects. Respect the worth and dignity of every individual and not violating people's boundraries.

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  • Not interrogating adults about their personal business. Respecting the limits and boundadries of other people and not imposing one's selfish will onto other people.
  • Developing a code of behaviour when dealing with other people's children that doesn't include hitting them, name calling, or harassing their parents.
  1. Creating a welcoming committe that has been trained to welcome people to the masjids prior to each jummah service or big service in which a large congregation will be present.
  2. Creating a conflict resolution team who have been trained in resolving conflict between lay people, clergy, and non-Muslim who have relationships with the congregation and or community
  3. Creating a New Muslim adoption group of Muslim families who can offer spiritual and emotional support to converts for a year or more.
  4. Creating community meetings where lay people and clergy are all equal and people can share their concerns, complaints, or complinets in a safe enviournment with out being verbally abused.
  5. Creating a volunteer committe for each Jummah group A volunteers to watch Group B's children during Jummah and than Group B volunteers to watch groups A 's children during Jummah so that mothers can attend Jummah in peace. Child care volunteers should also be available to volunteer at new Muslim classes, Islamic classes focusing on Fard aine subjects, and big events.
  6. All youth group should require children to befriend someone of a different nationallity or background and should never allow children to click.

Masjids should offer these support groups:

  • New Muslim support group
  • New Parent support group
  • Single Parents support group
  • Divorce support group
  • Depression/Anexity support group
  • Care Providers support group
  • Domestic violence support group
  • Grief and loss support group

Social justice focus:

  • Food pantry to single mothers, and low income families.
  • Medical clinic to single mothers and low income families.
  • Grants, and loans for single mothers and low income families.
  • Pastoral Counseling and Crisis management.
  • Home shelters for single mothers with children, transitional housing communities for low income families.
  • Funneral and barrieral assistance.
  • Foster parents.

And each Masjid should create some type of "community contract" " fellowship contract" or "covenant contract" where the code of behaviour, financial expectations, mathab of choice, and cultural expectations are clearly defined and there is no room for confusion. If some one violates it three times they should be removed from the congregation.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 222dnallohc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2006 at 9:26am

Try attending the womens halaqa or other class at the mosque if they have them....this will give you more opportunity to interact with the sisters.  If that doesnt work, maybe see if there is another mosque you can go to.

I personally had no difficulty at the mosque I attended...but I had met some of the sisters outside of the mosque before I started going there, so I already new some people.

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AsSalamu ALeykom

is so sad some muslims behave like that and forget what Islam teaches. I'm not revert but I have revert sisters and brothers, and never they said they were not welcome in the mosques and Islamic centres in where I'm. and I'm sure other candian cities are the same.

I guess the mosques in your area only have one race who are narrow minded and that could be the reason why they don't welcome someone who are bit different..

I honestly have problem with people who put down other human being regardless what religion they are...NO one wants to be treated differently or unwelcome wherever they might be...

May Allah have mercy upon you and give you strenght
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Originally posted by UmmAminata UmmAminata wrote:

Brother Peace M here are some ideas:

Sensitivity training should be required for all clergy, leadership, administrators, social workers, volunteers, and dawah workers.

Sensitivity Training In These Areas:

Refuting the negative images or beliefs that all North American and European Female reverts are harlots comming from brothels and that we are in need of their saving grace.- We are not-

Refuting the negative images of beliefs that all people from the African disporia are uneducated, ignorant, unemployed, on welfare, gang bangers, theives, crack heads, and are the cursed descendants of Ham.

Refuting the erroneous belief that reverts are in need of life makers, and should be treated as children at all times.

Keeping politics out of the Masjid especially the Musullah.

Be aware that "family" means different things to different people. Wether a revert was raised by a single parent, grand parent, adoptive parent, foster parent, or guardian doesn't make them " bastard children who will have more bastard children." Understanding that some reverts have no family because their families are dysfunctional and dangerous to their personal health and well being.

Common courtsey for those who are not Medical doctors, Engineers, or other professionals. Not interrogating people about their income, educational background, and social prospects. Respect the worth and dignity of every individual and not violating people's boundraries.

Not interrogating adults about their personal business. Respecting the limits and boundadries of other people and not imposing one's selfish will onto other people.

Developing a code of behaviour when dealing with other people's children that doesn't include hitting them, name calling, or harassing their parents.

Creating a welcoming committe that has been trained to welcome people to the masjids prior to each jummah service or big service in which a large congregation will be present.

Creating a conflict resolution team who have been trained in resolving conflict between lay people, clergy, and non-Muslim who have relationships with the congregation and or community

Creating a New Muslim adoption group of Muslim families who can offer spiritual and emotional support to converts for a year or more.

Creating community meetings where lay people and clergy are all equal and people can share their concerns, complaints, or complinets in a safe enviournment with out being verbally abused.

Creating a volunteer committe for each Jummah group A volunteers to watch Group B's children during Jummah and than Group B volunteers to watch groups A 's children during Jummah so that mothers can attend Jummah in peace. Child care volunteers should also be available to volunteer at new Muslim classes, Islamic classes focusing on Fard aine subjects, and big events.

All youth group should require children to befriend someone of a different nationallity or background and should never allow children to click.

Masjids should offer these support groups:

New Muslim support group

New Parent support group

Single Parents support group

Divorce support group

Depression/Anexity support group

Care Providers support group

Domestic violence support group

Grief and loss support group

Social justice focus:

Food pantry to single mothers, and low income families.

Medical clinic to single mothers and low income families.

Grants, and loans for single mothers and low income families.

Pastoral Counseling and Crisis management.

Home shelters for single mothers with children, transitional housing communities for low income families.

Funneral and barrieral assistance.

Foster parents.

And each Masjid should create some type of "community contract" " fellowship contract" or "covenant contract" where the code of behaviour, financial expectations, mathab of choice, and cultural expectations are clearly defined and there is no room for confusion. If some one violates it three times they should be removed from the congregation.

Assalamu Alaikum,

Sister UmmAminata, Jazak Allah Khair for the detailed ideas.

When each of us in the Ummah realize our responsibilities, we will be able to make strong networks and support systems, insha Allah.

It will take time, but its realization would become a reality one day, insha Allah.

May Allah guide us all.

Peace

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It will take time, but its realization would become a reality one day, insha Allah. - PEACE MAKER

 

Indeed, it will take time, and time will surely tell.

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Great list UmmAminta!

It takes people with great ideas and the energy to put it into practice.

 

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