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Originally posted by shakur shakur wrote:

you havn't answered the question maybe should bite
again. this is logic, if your religion is the true religion, and that you
believe only those whom are among you will go to heaven the rest of 6
Billion ( and in the past) people who are not jews will automatically go to
hell not because they didn't want to convert Judaism but they couldn't.
just for the simple reason they were not jews. am i wrong or can other
people who are not ethnically jews convert to judaisim


Anyone can convert to Judaism regardless of race or religion
Judaism does not have a stand on hell as there is no formal belief in a hell
the likes of what is described in Christianity or Islam.

There are stories and legends such as the book of Job where the devil
makes a deal with god etc. It's not required reading. It's an irritating
story- a dark joke. There are also stories of monsters. Shelly's
Frankenstein is based on a yiddish folk story "The Golem".
It's a child's fantasy with two dimensional characters and foils. It's like the
Charlie Bronson Death Wish series only it all takes place in Prague. And
the Character meeting out dark justice is a creature fashioned from clay
and Magic.

The walking hut of the witch hag Babayaga... I only know about this stuff
because my brother has an MA. in Yiddish Folklore and Mythology.
As we say in Hebrew Shtooyot bamitz agvaniot. "Nonsense in tomato
juice".

Any more questions?



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Shakur,please don't cause polarization...i believe Daniel made more good things to the Palestenians than we made...
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[QUOTE=Suleyman] Shakur,please don't�cause polarization...i believe
Daniel made more good things to the Palestenians than we made...[/
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Suleyman if only that were true. I am completely self serving here.
Those "Evil IDF soldiers" average aged 18-21 years old believe that they
are fighting the devil himself. I'm just a little better informed.

The best thing I could do for the Palestinians is to leave.
I'm sort of stuck here and I'm looking for a compromise that my
conscience can let me live with.
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if you call it nonsense do you still consider it the word of god ( the book of JOB)
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Bismillah,

I got that you thought you should leave from what you said about your grandfather saying you shouldn't be there.  Well, I've been thinking about how to bring that up.  And now you did.  You know the obvious conundrum.  So many Arabic people's families are there, and they can't go back home to be with them because the Israeli goverment has taken their travel rights and I guess citizenship rights.

 Yet, if the Israeli Jews like you who care about all human life leave, then who will be left?  Yet, some people are going to feel that you have taken their place.

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Herjihad,

I vote balaad which is what my wife calls the "Arab" party. That's non
sense It's the only democratic non Commie party that believes that the
law of return should not apply to only one religion. I think the experiment
is over as far as building a "light unto all nations" I think we made a mess
of it in the most important part. We did have a great deal of help
screwing up but in the end the responsibility was ours once we were
strong
and safe in our own "home". My children will serve in national service
that is they'll teach Math, Music and English in poor neighborhoods until
they are drafted into the IDF. From there they are prepared to go to jail
once they are ordered to serve in the IOF.

I used to do an impersonation of Johnny Cash when I was playing the tea
houses

"I'm Johnny Caayash   I went ta prizin as diyd mah dahaady befar mahe...
When mah' lil boy grozup he a goin ta prizin

Oy a broch...




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Originally posted by shakur shakur wrote:

if you call it nonsense do you still consider it the word
of god ( the book of JOB)


uh oh...
























INCOMING TRICK QUESTION HIT THE DECK MEN AAAAAUGHHHHHH....


I was talking about the book of Job in it's context as an originally Hebrew
manuscript.   I mean Jeez Louize man I thought WE (da Jews) just made it
up like a last minute album filler. Like "Her Majesty" on Abbey road
or "Thorn Tree" on the Laylah album. It's Like... like, like, that. No?


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Okay Okay I apologize It's not nonsense. It is beyond my understanding.
Now where would you like me to send my pinky?

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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Bismillah,


I got that you thought you should leave from what you said about your
grandfather saying you shouldn't be there.� Well, I've been thinking about
how to bring that up.� And now you did.� You know the obvious
conundrum.� So many Arabic people's families are there, and they can't
go back home to be with them because the Israeli government has taken
their�travel rights and I guess citizenship rights.


�Yet, if the Israeli Jews like you who care about all human life leave,
then who will be left?� Yet, some people are going to feel that you have
taken their place.



You covered it all there didn't you? In like one paragraph.
There are levels of hypocrisy. I'd like to think that in cases where some
chaos is unavoidable we can still get some work done. Last night I
learned from Uri Avnery a man who excels at getting me in trouble with
the police and my mother that I am considered by the new IDF Military
chief of staff (Halutz) to be "a traitor and that I should be prosecuted"

Congratulate me I must be doing something right.
This is the same man that dropped a one ton bomb on a terrorist in
Gaza. In the process nine children died||| Sorry. Nine children were
murdered. When Haaretz asked him, "What do you feel" When the news
came that the civilian casualties had been high and he was called on the
carpet for it he replied.
"I take full responsibility for this action. as for what I feel...
I feel a slight bump in the floor as the bomb leaves the airplane."

I promise you Herjihad and all who listen, I'll see HIS arrogant butt in the
Hague dock before I die.

There's an ISM Fund Raiser coming up on the eighteenth. I'm donating a
bunch of signed albums. let me know if you or your friends are interested
in the states. I'll hook you up with Tommy Wallace in Boston





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