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Originally posted by StephenC StephenC wrote:

Originally posted by Sawtul Khilafah Sawtul Khilafah wrote:

Well as far as the Dajjal or false prophet of the book of revelation is concerned, there are many signs.

But if you mean any Prophet, then one of the ways is to look at their PROPHECIES (since PROPHET means someone who makes Prophecies).

And what were Mohummad's prophecies?


Let me give you an example of current affair,  happening right now and  whole world is watching and wondering

I heard Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: The Euphrates(Iraq) would uncover  gold and when the people would hear of it they (current invaders)would flock towards it but the people who would possess(the shiites/Sunni Muslims $Kurds) that (treasure) (would say): If we allow these persons to take out of it they would take away the whole of it.  So they would fight and ninety-nine out of one hundred would be killed.(the current count is 3/4 of million and there is no end in sight) AbuKamil in his narration said: I and AbuKa'b stood under the shade of the battlement of Hassan.

 From: Bukhari
Tell me how manny will satisfy you?
Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sawtul Khilafah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2006 at 9:03am

Originally posted by leos leos wrote:

What is it with prophecies? Then, is Nostradamus a prophet bcoz he's got some pretty fantastic prophecies which a lot of people claim to have materialized?

The prophecies of Nostradamus are vague.

The reason is that his prophecies came through the Jinn. In the Quran we read that some people contact the Jinn who prophecy future events, but these prophecies are not clear at all.

Here are some of the Prophecies of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) about the ends of times that are happening today:

The invasion of Iraq by foreigners and Iraqis deviding into 3 groups (Sunan Abu Dawud).

Increase in adultery, prostitution, alcoholic drinks, etc. (Mishkat al-Masabih)

Musical instruments can be found in every house (Today, everyone has TV, computer or at least a radio, and all of these play music)

An army of Muslims carrying black banners would come from the East (from Afghanistan). This army would later go to Iraq (This is exactly what happened with Al-Qaeda who appeared in Afghanistan and are now in Iraq-and they carry black banners)

There are Hundreds more, but I will finish it with this prophecy:

Thawban reported the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) as saying:

 The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish.

Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time?

He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time ; but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the chests of your enemy and cast enervation into your own hearts.

Someone asked : What is enervation, Apostle of Allah? He replied : Love of the world and dislike of death.

(source: Sunan Abu Dawood volume 3)

Now look at the G8 and the UN

"The people" (The Nations) will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish.

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Thank you for the information, but for those of us that do not have the Qu'ran memorized, could you post the verses so that I can find them in my Qu'ran?
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You are welcome.

The above prophecies are not from the Quran, they are from the Hadith.

Quran=Words of Allah

Hadith books=Words of Prophet

I have given refrence to some of those prophecies, if you want refrence for a particular one ask away.

As for the prophecies of the Quran, there is one about the Yajuj and Majuj (Gog and Magog) and also about the Beast of the earth and some other things. Most of these prophecies have not happened yet, but there are a few that have been fulfilled, such as the victory of the Romans.

There are more prophecies in the Hadith than the Quran, and there are two reasons for this:

1: There are more Hadith than verses of Quran

2: The Quran is general while the Hadith are specific.

For instance, the Quran may say "The believers were mocked by the Kafirs" or "the believers must have patience" or "glad tidings to the righteous" etc.

These would apply to different situations at different times.

However, the Hadith are more specific, for instance it may say " when the invaders attack Iraq you must have patience", instead of simply "the believers must have patience".

The Quran applies to all generations, but when a prophecy in Hadith is fulfilled, then it no longer applies.

Also, the Quran will always be preserved and it is 100% authentic while the Hadith could sometimes be altered, unauthentic or incomplete.

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Please tell me where to look in the Quran to look at the PROHECIES you have given in the post.

If they are not in the Quran don't bother.  Why?  Because nowhere does the god of the Quran say that his words are in any other book than the ARABIC Quran.

The HADITHS and the Sunna are in no way the words of Allah.  They are all the words of human beings and we all know how truthful human beings are, don't we?

Even scientists can't agree with one another even in these days of hightech science.

 

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Originally posted by StephenC StephenC wrote:

Originally posted by Sawtul Khilafah Sawtul Khilafah wrote:

Well as far as the Dajjal or false prophet of the book of revelation is concerned, there are many signs.

But if you mean any Prophet, then one of the ways is to look at their PROPHECIES (since PROPHET means someone who makes Prophecies).

And what were Mohummad's prophecies?

In Islam Adam was the first prophet.  So, pl tell us about the PROPHECIES uttered by prophet Adam.

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First of all I was answering this question:

Originally posted by StephenC StephenC wrote:

And what were Mohummad's prophecies?

Secondly the Hadith books that I mentioned were compiled 1200 years ago, so the fact that the prophecies in these books are happening is proof enough that they are true. Also Islam is not complete without the Hadith, just as it is not enough for us to believe in Allah without believing in his Prophets and Messengers.

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Originally posted by <a href=http://www.islamicity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=55172&FID=7 target=_blank><strong><FONT color=#000000>StephenC</FONT></strong></A> StephenC wrote:

I see that the Qur'an tells about Christ and also foretells the coming of the Anti-Christ.

But no coming of an Anti-Muhammad.

Does that say anything about the status of Christ and the status of Muhammad?

 
THE BIBLE
Who or what are the �Antichrists�?

 

1 John 2:18-19

Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that ANTICHRIST is coming, EVEN NOW THERE HAVE COME TO BE MANY ANTICHRISTS; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But [they went out] that it might be shown up that not all are of our sort.

 

Who or what are the �antichrists�?

 

1 John 2:22-23

 WHO IS THE LIAR IF IT IS NOT THE ONE THAT DENIES THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST? THIS IS THE ANTICHRIST, THE ONE THAT DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON. 23 Everyone that denies the Son does not have the Father either.. . .

 

1 John 4:2-3

YOU gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God, 3 BUT EVERY INSPIRED EXPRESSION THAT DOES NOT CONFESS JESUS DOES NOT ORIGINATE WITH GOD. FURTHERMORE, THIS IS THE ANTICHRIST�S [INSPIRED EXPRESSION] WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD WAS COMING, AND NOW IT IS ALREADY IN THE WORLD.

 

2 John 7

For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus CHRIST as coming in the flesh. THIS IS THE DECEIVER AND THE ANTICHRIST.

 

 

The Anti-Christ is already here!



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