Women-Led Friday Prayer

Assalaamu alaikum

Kim! stated: �But if god made them that way and if god sent down the rule that 2 women must give evidence - how can he criticize them? He is criticizing his own creation? He made the women deficient AND he decided to invoke a sexist rule that makes women look bad.

If that's the case, then there's no reason why we cannot criticise either ourselves or him. Criticism is, apparently, completely valid.�

Dear Kim!

If you please allow me, I will place the hadith (Sahih Al-Buikhari 1:301 [sorry I forgot to post the # previously]), I quoted, in context�..

Firstly, I quoted the hadith with the (sole) intention of clarifying why it is not permissible, for a woman to lead mixed congregational prayers.

I am not a sexist; I love women, & would like to send glad tidings upon all good women!  

I do believe men & women are equal, however in different characteristics/attributes. Hence I think it inappropriate behaviour for women to compete with men, in areas where men have been granted dominion (& vice versa).

Maybe my initial post could have been more balanced! 

As a man, I could become envious about the relationship mothers have with their children�..

Narrated Abu Huraira (RA): A man came to Allah�s Messenger (SAW) and said, �O Allah�s Messenger! Who is more entitled to be treated with the best companionship by me?�  The Prophet (SAW) said, �Your mother.� The man said, �Who is next?� The Prophet (SAW) said, �Your mother.� The man further said, �Who is the next?� The Prophet (SAW) said, �Your mother.� The man asked (for the fourth time), �Who is next?� The Prophet (SAW) said, �Your father.� [Sahih Al-Bukhari: 8:2]

�..However I realise this is something which has been decreed by Allah (SWT)� Women go through 9 months of pregnancy, & then the pain of labour! Hence women already have a closer bond to their children (compared to the father) & in that sense women are more loving than men. I could go on��.

I would like to stick to been a man, & my wife (Insha Allah) I would like her to stick to been a woman�.. balance!

kim! wrote: Ok, thanks again - I already asked this in the private messgage, but I'll ask it again here: This is all very nice, but where does this all leave the status of girls, young women, unmarried women and women with no children? Kim...

i aint no scholar, i am a muslim who is strugglin to hold tight on to the rope of Allah.

i believe u shud study the lives of the women companions, and study the seerah of the Prophet saw, especially madinah period.

infact we all shud study the seerah.

peace to all.

Bismillah,

Kim, as I understand it, which other please feel free to correct all the details, the prophet as a leader of the times was obligated to accept the wives that were offered him, and that offered themselves to him.  We need to place ourselves in the situation, the country at that time and really imagine what it was like.  What would have happened to the slave girls that were offered to him and rejected?  Their originals masters might have sought revenge on them for being deficient or something.

Anyway, from the prophet's many marriages, we have the chance to see how men and women should treat each other in marriage.  Respect, care, mutual concern for each other's needs were all demonstrated by him and his wives.  And when he got angry with them, did he punish them in any way?  No!  He went off for a while to pray, fast, and find a solution to the problem.

Peace be upon you Kim!

Errmmm�..

� I suggest you seek the advice of a Muslim, of which there are plenty around in this forum.

I on the other hand am obviously not (Muslim), as the (Islamic) consulates I have contacted ignore me. So why listen to my words! The noble & wise aristocrats in society don�t!