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bharatiya View Drop Down
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I know about it Balquees...  And not all Muslims are bad.  There are as many good Muslims as there are bad Muslims in India.

Let me tell you one thing Balquees, don't be offended by it.  Its just my feeling.

I feel that Muslims are like virus.  They migrate to a place(many a times invade), multiply, and when their population becomes sizeable, they  either make it an Islamic Republic or ask for separation from the mainland.  This is not out of my hatred towards Muslims or anything.  I can substantiate my claim.

For example, division of Bharat into Pakistan and India(and they even want Kashmir), Xinjiang in China, Mindanao in Philippines, Chechnya in Russia etc.

My hatred comes from such Muslim mindset.  Thats the reason I hate some Indian Muslims, they make holes in the very plate they eat.

Peace and Love.
THE SOIL OF BHARAT IS MY HIGHEST HEAVEN, THE GOOD OF BHARAT IS MY GOOD.
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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by bharatiya bharatiya wrote:



I feel that Muslims are like virus.  They migrate to a place(many a times invade), multiply, and when their population becomes sizeable, they  either make it an Islamic Republic or ask for separation from the mainland.  This is not out of my hatred towards Muslims or anything.  I can substantiate my claim.

For example, division of Bharat into Pakistan and India

If you are saying that Muslims caused the partition of India and pakistan, you either do not know the history of partition, or you do not want to acknowledge it even after knowing it!

Muslims did not demand to make India into an Islamic republic ever! India was ruled by muslims since the slave dynasty, where the muslim rulers acknowledge and allowed the rites the majority hindu polpulation at large. Altmush, Qutub uddin Aibaq, All mughal rulers (with the exception of Aurengzeb), Sher shah suri, Tipu Sultan .... their dyanasties were spread out over 500yrs. Did they make India an Islamic Republic?

When some of the muslim leaders demanded partition, did they demand it or else an islamic republic? Do you have a substantiating claim to proove that Jinnah wanted India to become an Islamic Republic if it was not divided?

And do you forget Maulana Abul Kalam Azad and Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, who opposed partition? Or do you not want to acknowledge them as great muslim leaders of that time?

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Salam to: Bharatiya

I am enjoying your conversation, however I feel there is deep seated sense of distrust in your views when analysing muslims ( i may be in correct but your writing style reflects this), the way you express your feelings. Do you think that since you have been reading people like Francios Gautier since your childhodd or other pro-Indian Indologist from Holland, beligium and and Germany or newly rewrittehn historical work on India, to out do the British and Muslims colonial rule, has moulded your thinking to a certain extent since your childhood. Just like some muslims view all westerns as Crusaders since the onslaught in 1015AD in Jeruselam until the present day.

In your mind there is a strong sense of viewing Islam or muslims from one side of a prism.

I have sympathy with you  because at at times muslims also take one sided views of others without getting out of their own mindset. But dont you think on the contrary people like you and me can fall into the same trap.

The muslims spreading like virus analogy is not an issue for me, if you we view this from a social sciences perspective, when adopting  'conflict approach' to islam and muslims.

looking forward to for some interseting comments from you.

Regards

Fuhad

 
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Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh,

I am really confused on Bharatiya,with looking to his writings in the board he seems to fighting with islam and also trying to understanding it...also with looking to my conversations outside the board;he was like an muslim and respecting Islam;he was saying OUR PROPHET...i think the way of telling something to an person has an great effect on the acceptances may come from him...this is why Qur'an came in 23 years step by step so much caring the situation that persons were living in...there are so many good signs in the Qur'an for shaping our moving styles inside the persons...Allah knows the best... 
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