Censorhip

Telling children about sexuality very important; I think posters here are above 13 ( when you register for the forum?); and most of them know about sex through physical ed or internet; I see no harm in Israfil's "witdraw" question;Islam being a natural way of life, takes into account all of genuine human instincts such as physical, spiritual, intellectual, emotional.

In other words, instead of attaching any taboo to sexual fulfillment, Islam teaches us to celebrate sexuality within the framework of a lawful union.

People used to ask Prophet (PBUH) all kind of questions & he answered all their questions; he was very open minded. There is even an hadith about "coitus interrupt". Israfel took it one step further and explained what it meant.

But again its their server, they can do whatever they want,,,


Edited by ak_m_f

It is the responsibility of a child's parents to educate him/her regarding sex.  If the parents have owned up to this responsibility and have properly and adequately explained sex to them, even if they did read a mature question on this site, they would certainly not be shocked or puzzled.  If the parents absolutely do not want them to read anything of a sexual nature, the parents should take measures to assure the child is not granted access to forums, or forum topics where sexual matters are brought up.  My faith does not believe in any sexual activity until marriage, and it does not believe in birth control, except for "natural family planning" (NFP), which may very well not be the same as Muslims believe.  That is just our beliefs.  Never believe in abortion for any reason either.

Maybe parents need to be a little more proactive in what sites they permit their children to access.  Just a thought.

 

 

Salaam O Alaikum Wahrahmatullah

I've tried to remain silent on this post but due to the last post, I half to reply to protect my own honor and dignity. I realize that after I reply the moderators will most likely lock this discussion down. Which isn't Islamic,  which isn't healthy, and it doesn't offer the members a real voice.  Why this whole board on this website exists is confusing to me if you don't have the maturity and the compassion for your fellow Muslim to actually try to hear them out before you slap down a sanctimonious judgement about somebody else. You're going to have to choose one or the other. Abuse of one's authority is cheap!

I am the one who introduced what the moderators and rules of this server believe to be sexually explicit. Brother Israfil did not introduce any matieral, and responded to the valid Islamic authorities, and references that I quoted as sources for my arguements for the use of birth control.  I was the only one in that discussion that brought any valid Islamic references instead of engaging in a purely emotional, feelings oriented, opinionated discussion regarding the issue.  Why people are disrespecting brother Israfil and talking down to him like a child is beyond belief. I expected better.

Islam is NOT a purely emotive religion.  As Muslims we are required to proove ourselves with evidence or daleel from valid Islamic authorities.  Feelings an opinions on some issues are irrelevant.  I'm prepared to duel with the daleel I have because I know I did not engage in behaviour that was calling anybody to anything harram, deviant, or scandalous.  The overreaction of some here is astonishing to me.  I'm not Hyster Prenn in the Scarlet Letter people. What did I say that was so bad to deserve such a puritanical reaction? Why? is all I want to know?

I am NOT some type of whore, I DO have hayat, and I was not illicit in any manner.  I sent everything I typed to three outside Islamic parties including a personal friend who works for ISNA in connection with their fiqh council.  I did not get to finish my statement, I actually had to go.  I am deeply offended by the reaction of the moderators here and wonder why it is they feel they have any moral authority to make such statements about my haya. I'm not a fool, and I wasn't born yesterday! It's obvious who they are talking about.

The offense was quoting a sheik and his works using the C word and the O word regarding the procreaton process. I did not get to finish my statement. So I will finish now.

The point of what I was trying to say was that:

Some shuyuk disagreed about the c word as a form of birth control because it cheats one spouse of out of enjoyment, can lead to a certian degree of impotence, and can cause frusteration or tensions that can cause one spouse to committ adultery, have affairs, or engage in deviant behaviour. Marriage is a valid union before Allah, and this is a right of both spouses in marriages, and creating situations where some ones rights are interrupted is not Islamically sound. That was all that I wanted to say. I was using biological or medical terminology not sleezy sluty terminology. I tried to be as tactful and professional as possible.

May Allah really guide us, it's as if, some believe they are Allah's elect to the exclusion of all other humanbeings. I have never seen such arrogance, such hubris - what a crying shame.

I understand this server is not my property, and I understand that rules apply to everyone but the moderators.  BUT.... Some times moderators, people don't feel safe enough within their own communities because of the disdainful, immature, cultural, racist behaviour of muslims to ask questions, where are they supposed to go? It should of been a privallege and gift to you, that people felt a sense of community here because they felt safe enough to ask. What a major mistake.

Salaam o alaikum

I think you presented a very good post, Aminata.  As a non-muslim my opinion probably does not hold much weight, but I feel you are a wonderful, moral and decent lady.  I am happy to learn you have such a good marriage and a wonderful husband.  There is and always has been discrimination between men and women....from ALL religions.  I hope someday it will end.

Allah/God Bless.