Women-Led Friday Prayer

Peace to all,

It would be sad if this forum ended witthout my comment on Amina Wadud.

Simply she [Moderator Edited].rami.

Peae

Aus

Dont acuse people of Kufr when it is clear they are muslim, proove she is a Kafir otherwise stay silent. if you like i can post the forum guidlines you broke.rami.

peace to all

"Whoever splits from the Messenger after guidance has become clear to him, and then follows other than the way of the believers, We will turn him to what he has turned, and enter him into Hell. And how evil a destination!" [4:115]

And it is the way of the believers that from the time of the Prophet until now that no woman has ever been reported leading the Jumu'a Prayer, Eid Prayer, or any other prayer when those being led were a mix of men and women. 


We know that the enemies of Islam have many tactics they use in trying to get a misdirected and emotional response out of the Muslims. And perhaps they do that in order to produce a situation where they can justify taking action against those they label as extremists, radicals, terrorists, and fundamentalists.

I think that if people want to make up their own religion, let them do as they like. We just ask them to give us a little respect and not call it Islam, and don't call themselves Muslims. That's all. This i direct to the moderators.

Peace

Aus

You know the rule of riba!,the sins go in a cycle,the taker of riba,the giver,one who accounts for it,one who witnesses it and one who even guarantees it,theres no leeway for escape.

If a muslim is faced with two evils and he has no choice but to choose one choosing the lesser evil becomes permisable for him.

If someone does an action that goes against the teachings of islam,we call that person a kafir,khalas,thats what it means calling a spade a spade,and im sorry if that is going against the moderators wishes.

No we call that action a sin, if he believes in Allah and the messenger then he is a Muslim regrdless of what his sins are. You are making up your own defenition for what Kufir is, If one person labels another person as being Kafir than certainly one of them is a Kafir, this is a famous hadith.

Islam si not here to be redefined,we already invented the wheel,we dont need to redo it ever,islam is perfect,we dont need some woman from some university to come and seek piety from wrongdoing.

Islam is perfect people are not, where did you get your understanding of islam and how do you know it is correct, please dont reply with the Quran and Sunnah as even the scholars do not agree on the interprtation/understanding of everything.

The prophet said "they are lost those who make leaders of women amongst them" you want top deny that and question it also? He knows why he said that because it was wahyi.

That hadith was talking about leaders of a nation which is clear in the literal understanding of the hadith, dont take one hadith and apply it to everything, women can certainly take leadership in many different areas.

I suggest you look up a proper tafisr for the hadith to understand its context in islam rather than simply using this one hadith to define everything related to women in positions of power.

I think that if people want to make up their own religion, let them do as they like. We just ask them to give us a little respect and not call it Islam, and don't call themselves Muslims. That's all. This i direct to the moderators.

Women leading men in prayer is not Aqeedah so no this does not make a person a kafir for having the wrong view.

If you incist on labeling muslims as Kufar your posts will be moderated.

Peace to all

Too many arguments here,i dont know why we want to justify her actions when she clearly did something unislamic.thats wrong.

Whoever splits from the Messenger after guidance has become clear to him, and then follows other than the way of the believers, We will turn him to what he has turned, and enter him into Hell. And how evil a destination!" [4:115]

If you dont do what the believers do,you are an unbeliever.I still maintain my position and let God be the judge,but i will say it here in this forum.

Peace

Aus