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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rookaiya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 3:35am
hanan how do u explain him being banned just after i emailed Amah. the mods themselves told me that i dont expect to read each mail and its up to the members to bring things to thier attention

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 4:16am

Originally posted by rookaiya rookaiya wrote:

hanan how do u explain him being banned just after i emailed Amah. the mods themselves told me that i dont expect to read each mail and its up to the members to bring things to thier attention

As I'd asked in my previous post: " ... what that has to do with the subject of THIS thread, and with sister Herjihad's secret banishment?" Perhaps you would like to explain, because I don't understand your comment?

Regarding your assumption: I'm sure it was a coincidence that Joseph was banned after your PM. I remember that one of the mods even said to him (I'm paraphrasing) "I liked you until now." This means that they had been watching him and when he went "too far," they banned him.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rookaiya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 4:39am

it has everything to do with this thread. isnt this thread about banned members?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:08am

Originally posted by rookaiya rookaiya wrote:

it has everything to do with this thread. isnt this thread about banned members?

Yes, in a general sense it is.

Please allow me to quote your post, which I took as response to either Herjihad�s or Ummziba�s comments: �this is an islamic forum. will we allow non muslims to discredit the Quran and Islam here, while we do nothing? i dont think its right. if a muslim were to log onto a christian site and say things to discredit the Bible, im sure he or she woudl be removed from that site.�

My problem was, and still is, that I fail to see the relationship between the comments by the sisters and your post. Neither sister ever discredited the Holy Koran or Islam, nor should they be compared with Joseph who, I�m sure you agree, was publicly (not secretly) banned for violations of IC rules. I bristle at the notion to throw all the (permanently or temporarily) banned members into one pot, and prefer not to discuss Joseph on this thread anymore.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rookaiya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:18am
i never compared them to the one u prefer not to discuss. nor have i accused them of discrediting the quran. i was merely making a point which u fail to see.
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Thank you for your reply.

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no problem. glad that we sorted this out

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peacemaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 10:27am

Assalamu Alaikum,

Welcome to the forum, Sister herjihad.

I will try to reply your queries. If at all there was a reason not to publicly show your suspension, it was only to achieve a positive effect in you. There was nothing negative aimed at you in this case. We publicly show all members who have been banned. The secrecy, and I would repeat if there was any reason behind that, was only to bring about healthy outcome. Speculations made in this regard in this thread are not correct. Speculations are often misleading; therefore, it is always better to speak something with support of evidence.

Following is addressed to everyone including peacemaker:

Let us look at the following rule:

4. When discussing issues dealing with Islam, please support your comments with the Quran or Sunnah. Mocking any Quranic reference, Hadith, scholar, or member will not be tolerated. If you are stating something about a religion, please list your source. If it is an opinion, please state this fact.

As is evident, scholar bashing is not allowed here. It is NOT part of Islam.

"And of men and Ad­Dawb (moving living creatures, beasts, etc.), and cattle, in like manner of various colours. It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allh. Verily, Allh is All­Mighty, Oft­Forgiving." Qur�an 35:28

"O you who believe! Obey Allh and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allh and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allh and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination." Qur�an 4:59

Time and again, it has been made clear by many moderators including myself, yet some members are not following this rule. Why is it that?

If you don�t agree with a scholar on any issue, please do so respectfully while backing your view from reliable sources. That will be fine. No opinion or even Islam can be forced upon anyone. But, outright rejection of Islamic scholarship without proper evidence, misplacing all the blame on scholars, mocking them etc. comes under "scholar bashing."

We may not agree on many things, but we should learn to discuss respectfully. That is where lies our unity for a common cause, for justice and peace. When we speak here, entire world listens to us, but we fail and fail again to deliver what we want to deliver. Allah has blessed us this opportunity to convey the message of Islam to entire humanity, let us utilize this moment.

Finally, regardless of how hard we try to properly enforce rules, please understand that we may never become error free due to nature of this job; we can only keep improving gradually, and that is what we strive to do by the grace of Allah.

I hope we all would stick to the guidelines.

May Allah help us and guide us all.

Peace

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13
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