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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Originally posted by Servetus Servetus wrote:

Quote  - pl tell me how Allah is praying to Allah....

Replace the word �Allah� with �God� and that shouldn�t be too difficult for a Christian to understand, though it might prove inordinately difficult to explain.  Consider, for example:

�Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.� (Matt 26:36)

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Brother Serv,

Right on mark.  

Best Regards

BMZ

Erm...sorry to break up the celebrations, chaps, but......Allah is not a multi-personal God.  He is not a father, he does not, and cannot have a son, nor is he a son who can have a father.  He is furthermore incapable of becoming a man, and therefore incapable of praying to God.  So.... where does that leave us.....

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Originally posted by Doo-bop Doo-bop wrote:

Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Originally posted by Servetus Servetus wrote:

Quote  - pl tell me how Allah is praying to Allah....

Replace the word �Allah� with �God� and that shouldn�t be too difficult for a Christian to understand, though it might prove inordinately difficult to explain.  Consider, for example:

�Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.� (Matt 26:36)

Serv

Brother Serv,

Right on mark.  

Best Regards

BMZ

Erm...sorry to break up the celebrations, chaps, but......Allah is not a multi-personal God.  He is not a father, he does not, and cannot have a son, nor is he a son who can have a father.  He is furthermore incapable of becoming a man, and therefore incapable of praying to God.  So.... where does that leave us.....


Now you are not gonna get serious on a facetious retort R U
May be you are new to the this august forum. You will learn the manners in due course of time.
You country are you in?

Couple of things before I go any further:

Have you ever listened to an absolute King speak?

King will use I and We interchangeably depending on the situation. His wish is a command to be carried out may not directly by him, same when Allah spoke such,

In Arabic God is disgusted with the situation and it is expression of his wrath which may be carried out in due time. Who is translating as prayer is plane sign of ignorance.

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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Doo Bop wrote:
Erm...sorry to break up the celebrations, chaps �

There�s no need to apologize.  The celebrations were, in turn, merely an interruption of your and hardnut�s apparent joke.

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� but......Allah is not a multi-personal God.  He is not a father, he does not, and cannot have a son, nor is he a son who can have a father.  He is furthermore incapable of becoming a man, and therefore incapable of praying to God.  So.... where does that leave us.....

Dizzy?

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I not only think, but KNOW that the god of Islam can never be the Almighty God of the two prophets Moses and Jesus. (Moses of the Hebrews and Jesus of the Christians).

As I understand, according to Moses Maimonides, Jewish Talmudist and authoritative spokesman for Orthodox Judaism, the God of Islam and thus of Muhammad bears a greater resemblance to that of Moses than does that of Christianity.  He wrote:

�The Christians are idolaters ... The Muslims are not considered pagan in any sense.  No trace of paganism is left in their speech and in their hearts.  They confess the Unity of God in its strict and unconditional meaning � They may be deluded and in error in various matters, but concerning monotheism they are not at all mistaken.�

Serv

Ref:  Minkin, Jacob S., The Teachings of Maimonides, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1987, ISBN 0-87668-953-5, p. 319



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Doo-bop,

Maybe we, you and I, have gotten off on the wrong foot, as they say, and are off to an unnecessarily bad start.  I will take responsibility for that and try to correct it.  Please allow me to introduce myself and to welcome you to the forum.  I am a non-Muslim but, by now, rather long-term guest here myself and am pleased to meet you.  I hope that your time here is productive.

Best regards,

Serv

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Servetus - not at all.  You and I will get along fine
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Cheers, Doo-bop, let�s do that (get along fine).

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