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 Posted: 14 June 2005 at 12:37am |
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem
This is where Aus's understanding of Kufr comes from and this group is not accepted by The majority of muslims. They would claim muslims to be Kafir then consider it permisable to kill them and take possesion of there property...etc |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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aus
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Posted: 14 June 2005 at 7:59am |
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Aus's understanding of Kufr peace to all, i dont think the root of my understanding is anywhere near that.I know very well the aspect of not removing someone from the fold of islam as long as he spells the shahad,but that comes with conditions and there are points where the mere mention of the shahada does not shield one from being labbeled a kaffir,thats why if theres kufr buwaah that is exhibited by anyone,its allowed to label that person a kaffir. And kufr buwaah doesnt come much unconcealed like what she did.You see,if you fault the messenger,you fault Allah,she wasnt trying to interpret a text here,she was introducing a text.thats wrong,if you are trying to intepret a text,that would be something else even if the text was qati,you cant label her a kaffir. peace Aus |
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KHILAFA IS THE ANSWER!
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AhmadJoyia
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Posted: 14 June 2005 at 10:31am |
So, my dear Bro Aus, you haven't read this thread completely. Go and read it completely and you shall find that text which she thought to be seen as an evidence for her actions. Though, the evidence appeared to be weak to most the muslims, yet she wasn't trying to introduce any new text. I would recommend reconciling one's opinon is better than arrogant continuation. Rest Allah knows the best. Edited by AhmadJoyia |
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aus
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Posted: 14 June 2005 at 12:01pm |
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Peace I will never be at peace with what she did,thats all. She went against the deen and thats wrong. She deserves to be rebuked in the most strongest terms possible. peace Aus. arrogance is relative,but i would leave it at that,its not good to get personal,so says Rami,so do i agree. |
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AhmadJoyia
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 12:45pm |
Why? What is that which makes you leave the "peace" and adopt measures other than "peace"? Are these same reasons under which our beloved prophet was forced to take actions other than "peace"? I don't think so. Aggression and tamult are the only reasons against which such actions are justified. Don't you want to follow our prophet? Does your emotion make you go against your faith? Think before you make choice. |
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hkrespect
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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:18am |
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no evidence at all did the wives of the Prophet lead salaah? |
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AhmadJoyia
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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:43am |
I agree with you my bro hkrespect, there is no authentic evidence that I have seen it as yet, which provides any reason for women leading the prayer. This being said, my point to bro Aus was to keep our faith above our emotions and discuss the issue with peace and not with any other means. |
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hkrespect
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Posted: 24 June 2005 at 7:49am |
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salaam ahmad joyia you make an excellent point. i totally agree, |
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