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JasonChristian it is quite obvious from the spam thread you are here for one purpose which is exposing your beliefs which are against Islam and against Muslims at least admit that much. With that being said as a Muslim let me peacefully and calmly tell you that it is difficult to respond to you in a cordial manner especially if your intent on this forum is not to converse but to argue. But allow me to make the first step in answering your question directly.

As far as the meterotie you are referring to there are several theories regarding the stone itself and its origins. Yes most secular historians (including myself) would conclude that the stone is actually a meteorite. Some would conclude that the stone was once an angel but because if the sins of man transformed into a solid black stone. some believe the stone fell from the sky during the time of Adam and Eve and has the powers to cleanse the sins of worshippers by absorbing their sins into itself.  However the stone was never worshipped by Muslims nor by the Prophet Muhammad himself. according to Crystal links which is a random website I simply googled just for chits and giggles it stated:

"It is remarkable, however, that even though the temple contained 360 idols worshipped before Muhammad's Prophethood, the black stone was never kissed or made an idol of worship. In fact, the Ka'ba was never worshipped by the idolaters prior to Muhammad's Prophethood. The building contained idols of worship but the building itself was never an object of worship." http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html

If you had the slightest knowledge about Islam you would know that Allah (which, if translated to English means God) does not take on any comprehensible form known to man-this includes rocks, stones, pebbles etc. Allah does not even take the form of a man nor anything like man or anything like D'jinn. Allah has strict rules regarding worship and has commanded Muslims to not prostrate to anything that has been crafted either by him (Allah) or mankind itself. I sincerely hope this helps.

 

 

 



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Originally posted by Jasonchristian Jasonchristian wrote:

If Muslims love their Allah and their prophet so much, why do they engage in rock worship? 

Please prove this. If you are unable to back your claims such as the nature of this, then discontinue these outbursts. Follow the guidlines.

 

 

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 Aren't Muslims aware that pre-Islamic worship on the Arabian Penninsula incuded the shamanistic practices of rock worship, rock throwing, etc.

animal worship was also practiced by pagans before the exodus, so you should tell Moses that he is really a pagan (I am using your drivel as an example of how absurd your unproven assertions are)

 

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  You claim to be monotheists, yet elevate a meteorite to the level of a "god" and worship it in your Kaa'ba.  It is simply a left over practice of paganism.

Prove we have elevated a meteorite to the level of God? Your ignorance of theology and religion in general and Islam is astounding.

You claim to be a monotheist, yet you elevate a creature who was birthed through a vagina, used the toilet, and ate, and had dirty diapers as a God. Your worship of this man is a fact, not just an assertion. So who is looking more foolish? Your absurd assertion about me which you have failed to prove, or my fact about your theology?

By the way, please discontinue your spamming, your pattern is becomming apparent and you will soon find your account under review for suspension. Follow the guidelines.

 

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Originally posted by Jasonchristian Jasonchristian wrote:

Muslims are generally in denial that their form of worship is simply paganism with a smiley face.  Read this and then let's hear your rebuttal:

 

Do not be lazy, debate your own material. If all you have to offer is links to your polemical sites, then save it. This is a discussion forum. If you are unable to debate, then you should focus on why you follow your own faith, as your lack of critical thinking skills dictates that you have no idea as to why you believe a man is a god.

 

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Originally posted by Jasonchristian Jasonchristian wrote:

Unfortunately, Islam is a false cult, and you are destined for an eternity separated from God if you continue in the bloodthirsty religion of the thief, Mohammed.  However, not all Muslims are, for there are some who have found Christ:

 

If they worship a man, then they are called "idolaters", and they are no longer Muslim. You have made yet another insult to my faith and you have not had the intellectual fortitude to back your claims.

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 Also Jason and his kind do not have a sense of direction, a center of worship. Even the Jews had some place of worship. Muslims have the Ka'abah. These christians do not have anything at all. They just gather on Sunday (The day of Sun god) for a short time, sing a few songs and rest for the week.

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Jason Christian:
Judge not, that ye not be judged, for with what measure you use, ye shall also me measured"

That is from the mouth of Jesus.
So should you be judging others?
I do not argue with children.

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Asalam Alaykum Jason Christian:

Why all the anger???  You know as a Christian when you contend for the faith it's to be in love and truth. 

"The Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to everyone,...correcting his opponents with gentleness." 2Tim2:25

Why do you say Muslims worship a rock?  I never knew a Muslim to worship anyother than God alone.  Not trying to be rude but have you read anything about the Islamic faith?? Not from those who hate Islam but from a true an Islamic perspective.  Did you come to this site to learn or to cast hateful slurs my brother? 

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

Why kiss the cross?


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