IslamiCity.org Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Religion - Islam > Interfaith Dialogue
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - What is the reason...?  What is Islam What is Islam  Donate Donate
  FAQ FAQ  Quran Search Quran Search  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

What is the reason...?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 4>
Author
Message
harrdnut View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Joined: 18 November 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 32
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harrdnut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: What is the reason...?
    Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:30pm

What is the reason that Isa Son of Mariam was born thru a MIRACULOUS Virgin-birth but not prophet Mohammed?

As a Born-Again Isa Al Massih follower, I think that the god of Islam should have made prophet Mohammed be born thru a MIRACULOUS birth also, and given him more SUPERNATURAL POWER than was given to prophet Mohammed !

After all is not prophet Mohammed the SEAL of all prophets?

(BTW what does the word SEAL mean in Islam)?

Back to Top
Andalus View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group

Joined: 12 October 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1187
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andalus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by harrdnut harrdnut wrote:

What is the reason that Isa Son of Mariam was born thru a MIRACULOUS Virgin-birth but not prophet Mohammed?

Why is it that God gave Adam a miraculous birth without father or mother, yet God only birthed Himself with one parent. You would figure that if God was going to walk the earth for the first time, then he would have beaten Adam's gigue.

These questions ignore the scope of the mission of the prophet and the necessary elements of that mission.

Quote

As a Born-Again Isa Al Massih follower, I think that the god of Islam should have made prophet Mohammed be born thru a MIRACULOUS birth also, and given him more SUPERNATURAL POWER than was given to prophet Mohammed !

As a follower of God I think that if God was going to walk on earth that he would not require a mother and could have done things in a much more miraculous way. And God would have had more supernatural powers than He allegedly gave Himself according to the NT.

1) The Prophet Muhammad (saw) was given a mission to mankind, Jesus was sent to the Jews (it was Paul that took a washed own version of what Jesus stood for to the pagan gentiles.

2) The Prophet Muhammad (saw) transmitted the final revelation to mankind.

3) The Prophet Muhammad (saw) was given many miracles. To try and say, "this was better than that" would demean minor prophets of your own bible compared to Jesus

4) In your mind Jesus is God, so it would be dumb to compare God to men.

Quote

After all is not he lastet Mohammed the SEAL of all prophets?

(BTW what does the word SEAL mean in Islam)?

Yes.

It means he is the final prophet to mankind.  



Edited by Andalus
A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
http://www.sunnipath.com
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/
http://www.pt-go.com/
Back to Top
maryann View Drop Down
Starter
Starter
Avatar
Joined: 10 March 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maryann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 9:53pm

harrdnut sounds as if he thinks the God of Islam is different from his God. Silly me, I didn't think anyone still did not realize that there is only one God-right?

Back to Top
Angel View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 03 July 2001
Status: Offline
Points: 6641
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by harrdnut harrdnut wrote:

As a Born-Again Isa Al Massih follower, I think that the god of Islam should have made prophet Mohammed be born thru a MIRACULOUS birth also, and given him more SUPERNATURAL POWER than was given to prophet Mohammed !

In the bold i did, You mean Jesus

Mohammed was born wasn't he, is that not enough of a miracle for you

~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
Back to Top
BMZ View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 03 April 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 1852
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 11:19pm
Originally posted by harrdnut harrdnut wrote:

What is the reason that Isa Son of Mariam was born thru a MIRACULOUS Virgin-birth but not prophet Mohammed?

The Lord Almighty had shown all miracles and powerful signs through Moses. Those miracles were the sign of might given to Moses and he fought his way without having any army.

In the case of Jesus, the Lord Almighty gave him power to heal, etc and the power of speaking in parables which the Jews knew well as they had been used to speaking, knowing and understanding parables.

It also does not mean that Jesus was giving eye-sight, sound and life to the blind, deaf, dumb, dead and healing the lepers all over the land every day.  

As a Born-Again Isa Al Massih follower, I think that the God of Islam should have made prophet Mohammed be born thru a MIRACULOUS birth also, and given him more SUPERNATURAL POWER than was given to prophet Mohammed !

In the case of Muhammad, there was no miracle to be shown as people had seen enough in the past. It was time to talk, argue, reason, discuss and debate. That is what Qur'aan is all about. The greatest miracle given to Muhammd is a book known as Qur'aan.

Miraculous birth would not have helped a second time. Jesus was still born of a woman and that is how he came from his mother's womb, into this planet.

After all is not prophet Mohammed the SEAL of all prophets?

(BTW what does the word SEAL mean in Islam)? Means, no more prophets. 

As other friends have enlightened you, I would not go into more details. Please read some comments in blue fonts. Those are mine.

Shasta's Aunt: "Well, there's the difference you see. The Bible was written by man about God, The Quran was revealed to man by God."
Back to Top
BMZ View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 03 April 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 1852
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by harrdnut harrdnut wrote:

As a Born-Again Isa Al Massih follower, I think that the god of Islam should have made prophet Mohammed be born thru a MIRACULOUS birth also, and given him more SUPERNATURAL POWER than was given to prophet Mohammed !

In the bold i did, You mean Jesus

Mohammed was born wasn't he, is that not enough of a miracle for you

Short, sweet, cool and crisp, You!

Shasta's Aunt: "Well, there's the difference you see. The Bible was written by man about God, The Quran was revealed to man by God."
Back to Top
BMZ View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 03 April 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 1852
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 11:25pm

Sorry. Posted twice.



Edited by bmzsp
Shasta's Aunt: "Well, there's the difference you see. The Bible was written by man about God, The Quran was revealed to man by God."
Back to Top
mochiah View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 05 March 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 192
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mochiah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 March 2007 at 5:26am
Surah 18
1.
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:

2. (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,

3. Wherein they shall remain for ever:

4. Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "(Allah) hath begotten a son":

5. No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!

6. Thou wouldst only, perchance, fret thyself to death, following after them, in grief, if they believe not in this Message.

....
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 4>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.