Non-Muslim Celebrations

why start another thread, the issue is about non muslim celebrations, that is a broad scope, isn't mothers' day a non muslim celebration, just as trick or treat, fathers' day - hey we haven't picked on fathers day yet .  

seekshidayath wrote: Angel, do mother's require a day to be greeted? Are they to wait for there children to greet?

Honestly!!

We do have respect and love for our parents infact everyday.

And majority of non muslims do to, you are not the only ones. But having a specific day is not harming anyone. The same goes for fathers.

Frankly speaking i don't know if every sunday and saturday get into this section of imitation. There are specific days in a year which fall on a Friday, Sunday or sat.

You missed Imp's point, saturday, every saturday is the sabbath, the day of rest. So it does fall into the section of so called imitation. Because by what's going on, if you rested then on the sabbath, the day of the Lord who gave the day as for rest, you are imitating the non muslims.  So you better not rest on the sabbath  

 Seeks post of 08 January:

 JazakAllah Bro Israfil for letting know your views and am glad that u and minuteman did meet today , as even he says the same. Brother, there is a term  discussed in the Quran as 'footsteps of satan", its said do not follow the footsteps of satan. Satan is an open enemy. Today we feel its not wrong to greet. and next year, we feel we do not intend to celebrate but shall attend there and just stand, though we may not have wrong things, and next approach will be, oh its wrong to deny a friend and hurt him. This is called the trap of satan. We slowly follow his path and fail to realise that we are in trap. Look, its not that we are hating them or hurting them even. There are many other ways to get closer to them so as to convey our message.

 That is mere speculation and some supposed fears of getting lost or giving in to the christians. There is no such thing that we intend to progress in that direction. There is no danger or ill intention. We cannot keep ourselves cut-off and remain aloof from what is going on in the world.

 In the last sentence, it was said: There are many other ways to get closer to them so as to convey our message.

 Could you please describe one of those ways when we do not greet any christian at all. What method we will use to get closer to them? In my opinion. it is a defeated attitude to be afraid of the world. We have been told to return good wishes with better wishes and not to be a hypocrite. Allah will protect us from all evils if we follow the instructions.

  Imitation is to celebrate at our own home something like christmas. If some christian invites me to his home, I can tell him that I do not drink and eat pork. If he says okay then I may go there. No harm. I feel that some maulvis have been making their own rules based on their own ideas. There are four schools of Sunni jurisprudence namely Hanafi and Hanbli and shaf'ii and Maliki. If what Seeks is telling is found in the direct words of Imam Abu Hanifah, then it could have some value. But I believe it is not there.

 Some scholars took a harsh stand about things. If I am not satisfied then I am free to follow what suits my mind. But I should not try to be dishonest. That seems good enough for me. If the matter under discussion is proved from the Quran and Hadith then all will accept it. Otherwise NO.

 So far the scholars have told us that we should not imitate the Kuffar. We should not befriend the Kuffar. But who are they?? Are they christians?? NO. If I accept and attend the celebration of christians (such as Christmas) I do not feel that I am imitating them. So the material provided so far is not enough to decide this matter in favor of those who are against greeting the non Muslims. Please give more proof so that I remain very far away from the christians. Thanks.

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Subhan Allah!  If this fatwa is truly from Sheikh Al Qaradawi then I am surprised because it is from someone who clearly has little or no understanding of the Qur'anic ayat presented or who is either following their own nafs or making this fatwa for some other reason besides for the sake of Allah.  Allahu alim.

The main argument in this fatwa is revolving around the ayah from Surat Nisa number 86 and he is twisting it for his own purpose.  This ayah is talking about the greeting "As Salamu Alaikum". It is st**id and ignorant and a trick of shaitan to think otherwise.


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Al-Nur 24:62 ...... ' But when you enter houses, salute your people- a greeting FROM YOUR LORD, full of blessing and purity. Thus does Allah make plain to you the commandments, that you may understand.'

Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 4.543, Narrated Abu Huraira, r.a.

The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutation) of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi.' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.

Angel wrote: Layalee, i respect your beliefs and that is your choice but I cannot help but feel you are wrapping yourself up in cotton wool, I'm sure you feel some kind of aniexty, just look now at mothers' day you say you won't celebrate it anymore?? I can see you now on the day making a concious effort in not doing anything for your mum for fear of doing something wrong in the eye of Allah because it now has somekind of religious context to it. I mean no offence and you can do whatever you like but this is what I am picking up from your posts.

No offence tooken at all Angel. And perhaps you right, perhaps I may be fillled with a sense of anxiety when mothers day come around, for I'm sure my mother will struggle to understand my beliefs. Perhaps I will wake up with a urge to want to buy her a nice gift that Sunday morning. Because yes I am human, with emotions.

But this is a personal Jihad inside of me that I must deal with and face. I also know if I stand strong and conquer those negative struggles in the the end I will come out better. Life is all about dealing with the personal struggle inside. It's how we deal with these personal struggles in a whole that determines our place in the hereafter.

Al-Imran 3:104 'And hold fast, all together, by the rope of Allah and be not divided; and remember the favour of Allah which He bestowed upon you when you were enemies and He united your hearts in love, so that by His grace you became as brothers; and you were on the brink of a pit of fire and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah explain to you His commandments that you may be guided'