Women-Led Friday Prayer

One thing is for sure that I am not a scholar to weigh in different evidences. However, if I am not wrong, I think, the commands or sayings of Prophet Mohammad to some particular person, are usually considered exception (untill they are other wise of general applicapility) to that person or that occassion (known as hadith in its very essenstial meaning). On the other hand the established practices set by Prophet Mohammad (also known as sunnah), are considered for general applicability untill or unless specifically mentioned by him for that particular event or occassion only. With this difference in mind between the two i.e. sunnah and hadith, it may look quite obvious to follow sunnah, the established way rather than the exceptional command or saying. Kindly correct me, if I am wrong. Allah knows the best.

Sis Ummah wrote: AhmadJoyia wrote: it may look quite obvious to follow sunnah, the established way rather than the exceptional command or saying. Kindly correct me, if I am wrong. Allah knows the best. The Quran is foremost.  And there exists nothing that states a woman can not lead prayer.

I think I am clearly comparing between Sunnah and the quoted hadiths from Um-Warqah only because we have been told that there is nothing about the issue in Quran. So reminding of this fact (The Quran is foremost) again is not understood.

Now coming to your point

Sis Ummah wrote: The Prophet �commanded� her, Umm Waraqah, to lead prayers.

I think, comes into the category of 'commands to a certian individual untill or unless it is established through some other established sources that this command became the established practise among more general population right in the time of prophet Mohammad. So your quote from the same hadith

 

Sis Ummah wrote: No one at that time, would set up their own mosque, complete with mu�adhdhin, without either the Prophet�s express command or permission.

needs another independant source of reference to substaniate the matter. In the absence of such a source it would always put doubt that this "command" of prophet had any general effects on the muslims outside the house of um-warqah. I think its time to refer to the whole of the hadith to look more closely on it. Here it is from one of the internet sources "

Narrated Umm Waraqah daughter of Nawfal:

When the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) proceeded for the Battle of Badr, I said to him: Apostle of Allah allow me to accompany you in the battle. I shall act as a nurse for patients. It is possible that Allah might bestow martyrdom upon me. He said: Stay at your home. Allah, the Almighty , will bestow martyrdom upon you.

The narrator said: Hence she was called martyr. She read the Qur'an. She sought permission from the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) to have a mu'adhdhin in her house. He, therefore, permitted her (to do so).

She announced that her slave and slave-girl would be free after her death. One night they went to her and strangled her with a sheet of cloth until she died, and they ran away.

Next day Umar announced among the people, "Anyone who has knowledge about them, or has seen them, should bring them (to him)."

Umar (after their arrest) ordered (to crucify them) and they were crucified. This was the first crucifixion at Medina."

Before critically analysing the hadith myself, I must make my disclaimer that I am not at all a scholar of hadith, neither I have any authority on the subject. My analysis is solely through my own observation of the contents of the hadith in english translation that has been reproduced from an islamic internet site. Having said all this, I do observe that the contents of this hadith have two different narrators, the first narrator is "umm Warqah" herself as the title shows, however, the second part of it is by some other person (not identified with the contents of the hadith nor before it) who is narrating the incident as to what happened after the death of "Umm-Warqah". Merely on this basis, I think there is sufficient reason to call for independant source of reference which could establish the fact that the practise of leading the prayer by "Umm-Warqah" was for general population of her clan or tribe or area etc. Rest, Allah knows the best.

Sis Ummah wrote: Yet today, all who lead congregational prayers or perform the adhan (call to prayers) do so without the Prophet�s express command, since the Prophet has long passed away. Why would it be any different for any woman today?

I am totally confused with your statement (do so without the prophet's express command), what idea are you trying to sell here?

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

regarding the evidence you have quoted, here is the reply to it by Shaykh Zaid Shakir a person who is qualafied to comment on the matter. You should note that this is a direct reply to the article you mention.

>>>1. The Prophet (peace be upon him) commanded Umm Waraqah, a woman who had collected the Qur�an, to lead the people of her area in prayer. She had her own mu�adhdhin (person who performs the call to prayers)<<<

Part 1 The Hadith of Umm Waraqa

As for her lone substantive evidence, it is the following: The Prophet (peace be upon him) commanded Umm Waraqah, a woman who had collected the Qur�an, to lead the people of her area in prayer. She had her own mu�adhdhin [person who performs the call to prayers].5 This narration, found in the compilations of Abu Dawud,6 ad-Daraqutni,7 al- Bayhaqi,8 al-Hakim,9 the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa�d,10 and other sources, is questioned by some scholars of hadith (prophetic tradition) because of two narrators in its chain of transmission.11 The first is al-Walid b. �Abdullah b. Jumay�12. Imam adh-Dhahabi mentions in al-Mizan that although ibn Ma�in, Imam Ahmad, and Abu Hatim considered him an acceptable narrator, others refused to accept his narrations, among them Ibn Hibban. Imam al-Hakim also questioned his probity.13 Ibn Hajar al-�Asqalani mentions that al�Aqili said there was inconsistency in his narrations.14

Although a case can be made for accepting the narrations of al-Walid, based on those who do affirm his probity, the state of another narrator in the chain of this hadith, �Abd ar-Rahman b. Khallad, is Majhul al-Hal (unknown).15 Al-Walid also relates this tradition from his grandmother. Imam ad-Daraqutni mentions that her state is also unknown.16 In the opinion of the overwhelming majority of scholars, the existence of a narrator whose state is unknown would make the transmission conveyed by that chain,weak.17

This combination of two potentially weak narrators makes it questionable to use the tradition of Umm Waraqa as the basis for establishing any rulings in the Divine law. While the questionable nature of this hadith does not undermine the widespread acceptance it has received from the earlier scholars, it does make it difficult to use as the primary evidence for a major precept of the religion, which is the case in this discussion. Were we to assume that the tradition is sound, it would still be difficult to use it as the basis for establishing the permissibility of a woman leading a public, mixed-gender congregational prayer, for reasons we shall now mention, if God so wills.

First of all, the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, advised Umm Waraqa to stay in her house �Qarri fi Baytiki. This command is of import, as it creates two possible scenarios for the prayer she led. Either she remained in her house to lead the congregation, or she left her house to lead it in a mosque at an outside location. If she left her house to lead the prayer, she would have been acting contrary to the order of the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him. There is no transmitted evidence that the prayer took place outside of her home. Hence, we can conclude that her mosque was in her house.

Her establishing the prayer in a mosque located in her home would be consistent with numerous narrations where the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, permitted various companions to establish mosques in their homes.18 Imam al-Bukhari mentions that al-Bara� b. �Azib led congregational prayers in the mosque in his house � Salla al-Bara� Ibn �Azib fi masjidihi fi darihi jama�atan.19 Imam al-Bukhari also mentions a hadith where the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, went to the house of a blind companion, �Itban b. Malik, to establish a mosque there.20 Ibn Majah produces several narrations of this event.21 In fact, the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, ordered the generality of believers to establish mosques in their homes. �Aisha relates, �The Messenger of God ordered that mosques be established in the homes

[Dur plural of Dar], and that they be cleaned and perfumed.�22

Based on these and other relevant narrations, we can safely conclude that Umm Waraqa had a mosque in her house, and that the prayer she led was not in a public place outside of her home. A more controversial point is who was being led in the prayer? Here there are three possibilities: her mu�adhdhin (prayer caller) and two servants; the women from the neighborhood surrounding her home; the women of her house. As for the first possibility, the wording of the hadith, along with the narrations we quoted above, would lead one to believe that the residents of her house were being led in the prayer. All of those narrations use Dar to refer to house.

This would support the interpretation of Dar as �house� as opposed to �area.� This interpretation is also consistent with the literal meaning of the term Dar. Al-Fayruzabadi, Ibn Mandhur, and Raghib al-Isfahani all define Dar as a walled structure encompassing a building and a courtyard.23 An interpretative principle relates that �the origin in expressions is their literal meaning, there is no resorting to derived meanings without a decisive proof.�24 Hence, the term Ahla Dariha would be best translated �the people of her house.�

Based on what has been narrated that would apparently include a male and female servant, along with the old man who was appointed by the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, to serve as her mu�adhdhin (caller to prayer).25 Reda rejects this interpretation, arguing that three people would not need a mu�adhdhin.26 This is not the case. Those scholars who consider the Adhan (prayer call) a right associated with the obligatory prayer, or a right associated with the congregation, hold it to be Sunna (highly desirable in deference to the prophetic practice) to issue the call for any congregation assembled to undertake the five obligatory prayers.27

The size of the congregation in this regard is irrelevant. According to a hadith mentioned by al-Bukhari and others, even a person who is praying alone in an isolated area should make the call to prayer.28 Hence,Reda�s conclusion is not sound.

On the basis of this interpretation, it is related that Imams al-Muzani, at-Tabari, Abu Thawr, and Dawud Adh-Dhahiri allowed for females to lead men in prayer.29 Some modern scholars use this interpretation to allow for females to lead men in prayer in the confine of their homes, if the males lack the qualifications to lead the prayer.30 The relevant point here is that the prayer was a private matter, conducted in the confines of Umm Waraqa�s home, limited to the inhabitants of her house.

Were one to reject this first line of reasoning, a second possibility is that the people being led in prayer came from the area surrounding Umm Waraqa�s home. This is the interpretation preferred by Reda. It has a basis in narrations from the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him. In the hadith of �Itban b. Malik, it is related that Ahli�d-Dar used to gather there �fathaba fi�l-bayt Rijalun min ahli�d-Dar. Ibn Hajar mentions in his commentary on this hadith that Ahli�d-Dar refers to the people of the neighborhood �al-Mahallah.31

Based on this understanding, it is not unreasonable to interpret Ahla Dariha, in the hadith of Umm Waraqa, as the people of her �area,� as Reda does. However, we are not left to guess as to who those people are. Imam ad-Daraqutni�s narration of this hadith mentions that Umm Waraqa was ordered to lead her women in prayer �wa ta�umma Nisa�aha.32 Hence, if the people praying with Umm Waraqa were from the surrounding area, they were all women, as Imam ad-Daraqutni�s version of the hadith makes clear.

Based on this second line of reasoning, we have to accept that they were women, in accords with an interpretive principle, �There is no room for speculation when transmitted evidence exists.�33 Here the text specifically states, �her women.� Ad- Daraqutni�s version would clarify a potentially vague expression in the other versions.

A third possibility, also based on joining between the majority narration and ad Daraqutni�s version of the hadith, would lead us to understand that the people of Umm Waraqa�s house were all women. Hence, Ahla Dariha (the people of her house) being led in prayer were women. There is no transmitted evidence to the contrary, as the opinion that Ahla Dariha were the two servants and the mu�adhdhin, mentioned above, is an assumption. In al-Mughni, Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi mentions the incumbency of accepting this third interpretation.34 God knows best.

This latter understanding that Umm Waraqa only led women in prayer is strengthened by two ancillary evidences:

1)     The numerous narrations mentioning that �Aisha, Umm Salama, and other female Companions led all women congregations;35

2)     and the fact that when the Prophet, peace and blessings of God upon him, established a  mosque in the house of �Itban b. Malik, the congregation was all male �Rijalun (men) min ahli�d-Dar. It would therefore make perfect sense for the Prophet to establish an all female congregation elsewhere.

Summary and Rulings

Based on the hadith of Umm Waraqa, its possible interpretations, and the other

ahadith that mention women leading the prayer during the prophetic epoch, the Sunni jurists have deduced the following rulings:

1. The Shafi�i and Hanbali schools allow for a woman to lead other women in prayer without any restrictions. She can lead such prayers in the mosque or other places. The Hanafis permit a woman to lead other women in prayer. However, they hold it to be disliked.36 All three of these schools stipulate that the woman leading the prayer should stand in the middle of the front row, without being in front of the women praying along with her. This is based on the description of the prayer led by �Aisha and Umm Salama. The Malikis hold that a woman cannot lead other women in the prayer.37

2. Of the three Sunni schools that hold it permissible for a woman to lead other women in prayer, none of them hold it permissible to lead men. Although there is a minority opinion in the Hanbali school which permits a woman to lead men in Tarawih, if certain conditions prevail, providing she stands behind them.38

3. Imam an-Nawawi mentions the following ruling in the Majmu�, �If a woman leads a man or men in prayer, the prayer of the men is invalid. As for her prayer, and the prayer of the women praying with her, it is sound.�39 As for Jumu�ah, he mentions the following, ��if a woman leads men in the Jumu�ah prayer, there are two rulings [concerning her prayer]. They have been mentioned by al-Qadi Abu Tayyib in his Ta�liq, the preponderant opinion is that her prayer is invalid, the second is that it is lawfully begun as the noon prayer.�40

4. Some modern scholars hold it permissible for a woman to lead men in prayer within the confines of her house, if there are no men qualified to lead the prayer.41

5. Imams Abu Thawr, Dawud adh-Dhahiri, and at-Tabari, whose legal schools have been defunct for centuries, are related to have held it permissible for a woman to lead men in prayer. This opinion is also related from Imam Muzani, one of the principal narrators of the Shafi�i school. We will examine this issue in greater detail, as it serves as one of the evidences offered by Reda for the validity of unrestricted female prayer leadership.

Edited by rami

What if Aliens... Other Life - from other planets.. come visit Earth.. and one of them wants to become Muslim?.. some how... you know... if they aren't alreadY?...

What if they had 5 diffrent sexes... .. Male - Female - Male/Female - Female/Male - and a Non-Reproducing agent..

What would we do if one of them Wanted to Lead a prayer?... ... Oh My.. Think of the out cry?...