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abuayisha ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105 |
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Wow, how realistic is that? He leaves for extended periods. |
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samada ![]() Starter ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Martha, it's my understanding that he is either attempting to keep you away from pakistan or outright prohibiting it. am i correct? Half of our islam is marriage...it can't be based on lies. If it is, then it's not two lives brought together as one...it was one life and one fictitious life. You wrote that you even think he may have just used you for citizenship. You wrote that you don't trust him. You wrote that he won't even be honest with you about whether you are wife 1 or 2. If marriage is half of our Islam, then surely one based on such things isn't bringing honor to Allah. Have you asked him about this? I would certainly check with a scholar of Qur'an and hadith before looking seriously at divorce, but it seems that you should find a husband that fears Allah, becuase it surely doesn't seem that yours does, charming, sweet and loving as he is. Allah is Merciful...he is always there to take care of us. I often think an important thing to consider is this: is your marriage discouraging you from bringing honor to Allah or is it encouraging you to bring honor to Allah? Are you so distressed by the marriage that you are less effective in striving to please Allah in the various roles He has given you in this life, i.e., mother, employee, daughter, sister, friend, etc.? Just because we are muslim women doesn't mean that we must stay with men that mistreat us. Sister Martha, be honest with yourself, difficult as it is...you are being mistreated. We are to be honored, just as we honor our husbands. I don't accept that pious men are difficult to come by and therefore we should accept that we are more pious than they. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite--our husbands are our leaders...we are to follow them. And if they mistreat us and cause us emotional turmoil, then i think it is worth seriously looking into the option of finding a pious man that will be a good leader and partner. again, as i wrote before, i don't accept that men are allowed multiple wives for selfish reasons. it seems to me, particularly if you are wife number two, that his reason for marrying two was not to bring honor to Allah. Honestly, it seems that he is either very selfish or weak. he wanted what he wanted, at the expense of your well-being. i know this hurts so much. but you must look at this for what it is. What would you tell me if i were you? And if the demise of your marriage is ahead, stay on the right path and follow Allah's call always. He is Merciful and Omnipotent. He will take care of you. Much love and Salam - |
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marchfriday ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 August 2007 Location: Pakistan Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Ii dont know why everybody is taking separation as fun In your case what happened in past leave it forget it, try to accomodate him and have Tawakkal that Allah will serve you on your sacrifice. |
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herjihad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2473 |
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Salaamu Alaykum Dear Sister, I think the best advice I could give you would be to establish a dialogue and hopefully friendship with Sister Hayfa if that is possible. Don't just ask the question and then leave. Come back here or get in touch with her. Whatever you decide, you need to have a community's help through this. Don't be embarrassed about whatever you decide. It is your life, and just follow the pillars of Islaam, and that is the most important thing for you to do in the end on your journey. Salaamu Alaykum |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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martha ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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To everyone who has offered me advise so far. It is much appreciated. I hope everyone sees me as a muslim sister, and not visualise me as an English woman. I amtrying to find peace. I tell myself that I was muslim before I met my husband, so I must always remember that Allah is the most important, and of course I know Allah would not want me to suffer longer than is necessary. I know we must suffer, it is the way to learn and grow. I'm not sure I am growing as a muslim when I am with my husband. He does not direct me in the right path. It seems he is always too busy with his worldly responsabilities to think about helping me towards heaven. I have found many kinds of muslims. Those who outwardly do the things they should to show themselves muslim. I know many who are born muslim, but somehow dont seem to understand Islam. Sometimes it seems that there are those who dont really believe at all, but just do the prayers because it is a routine. I hope I dont sound critical. I dont mean to be, but I just dont understand. I became muslim because I wanted to, and I had a lot of problems with other people accepting it my decision. I dont feel accepted by my own people, nor do I feel accepted by asian muslims. I have been unlucky. I hope I can meet some committed muslims who actually understand what Islam is. I dont want people to think I am ungrateful in any way. I am a simple person, I dont ask for much in life, I just want some friends who can be honest and show me the way. Islam is not complicated, why do people make it so? I think I am too innocent. I hope not to offend anybody at any time. Just please someone help me understand more.
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Hayfa ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Female Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2368 |
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Salaams Martha, I think your words are quite heartfelt. I think that many reverts face this "no-where" land.. we are really somewhere on the Moslem continuum. And maybe as we have entered into Islam a bit later than those born into Islam, we are more prone to examine our lives. But where exactly do we "fit" in? I too often think I don't belong anywhere. After having "visited" amazing Moslem families in It is hard to find any type of "acceptance" or should I say "community" with born Moslems. I often think it has to do with the way we are raised, what we focus on, etc. For instance, when I was in One thing I did find was that my goal had to be is take each person as an individual. People get SO caught up in group identity, cultural identity that they view everyone through that prism. I met some really amazing women in I agree with that people often make Islam quite complicated. It is our human weaknesses I believe. I think that people often cannot 'see' what is right in front of them. It is sadder if you see it in Moslems as they have it "given" to then. I think that true spiritual living appears hard to experience. People, as you said, are caught up in this world. And often have nothing but petty things to focus on. It amazes me. There are so many greater things to worry about and people spend a lot of time putting others down or judging them. It is good you have spoken to his family. Would any of his sisters or mom be better able to help you understand the situation? The unknown makes it far more difficult to make a decision that is right for you. Does his other wife live with them? I also think you need to have a heart to heart talk with your husband. Part of it is finding out what does he want? What he truly wants will give you insights into his motivations and what the future may hold for you. I can imagine it is quite difficult for you.. and remember, you don't have to make any major decision today. Pray and reflect. Take care.. Hayfa
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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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abuayisha ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105 |
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That is a very unfair, biased and simply a false statement, unless, of course, you can support it with evidence. Edited by abuayisha |
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samada ![]() Starter ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Sister Martha, here are your own words: "I'm not sure I am growing as a muslim when I am with my husband. He does not direct me in the right path." i think we all agree that a marriage with Allah at the center of it is more pleasing to Allah and to ourselves, no matter its cultural context. I think a marriage without Allah in the center is displeasing to Allah, particularly if it is based on lies, manipulation and selfish desire, all of which are in opposition to Allah's commands. Justification for remaining in Martha's marriage is weak...her interest in ending her marriage is quite different to wanting out because of boredom, family problems, love for another, affair, growing apart, career, etc. Her marriage was based on deception. Allah gave us divorce as an option, and I really can't think of a better reason for it than Martha's--a totally deceptive marriage to someone that deters her from honoring Allah, is unkind to her, doesn't fear Allah in his life, bars her from having a fulfilling relationship with her in-laws, etc. While Allah has commanded us to be firm in our patience, He also clearly provides us with means of divorce in the Qur'an. I see our discussion here as twofold: 1. whether Allah will be more pleased with Sister Martha if she uses the divorce option He gave the Islamic Ummah, to find a man that loves, fears and honors Allah, and will foster her growth in Islam, in himself and in their union 2. our haram tendencies to allow culture, skin color and predispositions to cause pain and lack of acceptance within the Ummah (as we see in Martha's difficulties with her husband and his Pakistani family and Hayfa's expressed difficulty in experiencing acceptance with "born Muslims") Allah judges us in light of our dedication to Him, without any heed of culture (as far as I know). If this is how Allah limits his view of us, then who are we to view one another in any other light? I live in the NYC metro area and am blessed to have Sisters hailing from all over the world in my life. Alhamdullah, we benefit from one another's different perspectives. We must consciously limit our differences to positive usage only. Martha, are you active in your immediate Muslim community? Masha'allah, I found wonderful, pious, brilliant friends by simply going to masjid for Salah and through attending classes. It seems that you may need sisters that cherish you, and desire to bring honor to Allah through your friendship. Am I correct in identifying your need? Of course, we all need this. I think using cultural differences as a basis for separation of anything Allah has joined together is wrong. If a mature person fears Allah, then he will focus on his/her spouse's character and Islam, and demand that his family and friends do the same. He will not succumb to their pressures that are in opposition to the criteria set forth by Allah. A righteous family will view her as a sister of the islamic Ummah and shower her with love. If that's not the case, then they are wrong. Allah commands us to be content with our muslim brothers and sisters, whether in the immediate family, local community or the islamic Ummah. Being sensitive to cultural differences is one thing; using them as a means of physical or emotional distance is another. And I think we must be very conscious of this as muslims. Let's always cherish our differences and use them as a means of brining more honor to Allah. As for #1 above, Sister Martha, I am in no way a scholar, but as I see it, I think you should love yourself as Allah loves you. He chose to guide each of us reading this post closer to Him becuase He loves us, becuase He is Merciful, and we should therefore love ourselves enough to take good care of ourselves--to chose husbands that will help us grow closer to Allah, and to rid ourselves of those who harm us. How can a marriage built on a foundation of deceit and continuing in lies and imposed turmoil honor Allah and you, His very precious female creation? On a final note, I have no idea if you're praying 5x per day, but once I began doing it, my life changed completely for the better. I recommend Istakhara for your situation, if you haven't already done it. It took me a long while to finally be in a place where I was truly ready to pray it. but once i did, specific direction didn't come, but a peace that guides me did. As for a community, maybe your best sister-friends will be on this board for now. love and salaam... Edited by samada |
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