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honeto
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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BMZ
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No, it is not. It is just that the link you provided leads to articles written by unknown men and a woman, who are Closet Apostates, like Ali Sina, writing at FFI and other hate sites, which are totally biased against Muslims only.
The substance and the essence of the message remains the same, whichever way, one interptrets. Are you referring to translations in English by various translators?
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Shasta's Aunt: "Well, there's the difference you see. The Bible was written by man about God, The Quran was revealed to man by God."
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Delta
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This forum was one of the best interfaith discussion board, months or a year ago....but it turned to be the worst I ever saw I totally agree that you as a moderator should ban and filter personal attacks, disrespecting people As for religion, I must say that I hate Islam, make that very clear. But not muslims as you and all of you. I attack Islam, not persons, i.e., muslims And to prove you that you are Biased, I never quoted Ali Sina articles or his website you are wrong I gave you a link to a article of Mohammad Asghar in another site However, why are you so afraid about Ali "Sinner" as you like to name him ? If you are so secure about your faith, you will find all answers and get back with any scratch in your believes
No it is not take your Arabic version and a medina sura verse The Medina verses had a number of paragraphs negative towards the Jews and Christians so it is enough to ask you : Do you interpret them literally or you make just your personal interpretation ? You already know that I hate Islam and not muslims, so you are free to take the next step |
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BMZ
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Delta,
Before I comment further, I would like to know if you ARE really a Christian?
Yes or No?
Your hating Islam does not bother Muslims or me. You may continue to hate Islam. I don't have to take any further steps on that. Could you quote some Medinah verses which you want to discuss? Do that in small bites, please.
BMZ
Edited to add on the last para.
Edited by BMZ - 08 May 2008 at 10:51pm |
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Shasta's Aunt: "Well, there's the difference you see. The Bible was written by man about God, The Quran was revealed to man by God."
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Delta
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Sura 9:5 http://quranexplorer.com/ |
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myahya
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Delta, many verses in the Quran can be interpreted
literally and the meanings are straight forward and clearest. A Muslim reads
Quran and comprehends the clearest verses and understands what he/she should
understand. However, if one does not understand a verse or verses (if they be
honest and not biased or intended) they simply say that they don�t understand that or
this verse.
On the other hand, even if there are different interpretations then you can not conclude that the Quran is changed. At last you can say you are not sure about interpretations, but this opens a window to do research to find the truth. The Quran is the Quran in truth. The literal as well as possible underlying meanings do not change in fact. I should emphasize that there may be wrong interpretations but it does not imply that the Quran must have been changed. A sincere Muslim does read Quran and act according to what he/she understands without a doubt and tries to more comprehend the (literal and non-literal) right meanings sincerely. The guidance would be from Allah swt. Edited by myahya - 09 May 2008 at 4:11am |
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Delta
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verbatim is verbatim, absolute is absolute, complete, perfect; pure; unlimited; definite, positive; not relative this is what islam claims about the Qu'ran I didn't conclude the Qu'ran is changed, but rather it is being changed all the way by each people interpretation Reading a passage of the Quran in context does not mean just reading it with the preceding and following verses. You have to also know the sha�ne nozool, i.e. the historic context, why and in what occasion Muhammad said a certain verse. That is why you have tafseer. Tafseer is the interpretation of the Quran. Tafseer means interpreting, clarifying, expounding. It is derived from fasara, which means "to explain, to open or to unveil" Many books of tafseer have been written. Does this mean that you can't interpret the absolute word of God, the Verbatim Word of God ? Logically, being absolute word of God, there is no other way of interpretation other than that of Bin Laden |
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Shasta'sAunt
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But speaking of verse 9:5 you need only read the preceding and following verses to understand the interpretation. Literally speaking, since the verses clearly state the Messenger of Allah was present, then these verses are speaking of a specific time and a specific treaty. They would not literally be addressing a time other than that of The Prophet Mohammed.
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