Gay muslims?

".......and the basis of that book is to teach women whose husband started relations with other men and don't feel fully satisfied with a woman after that"

I have a question for all Muslims...

Why is it that you can judge an entire group of peaceful people whom you have never met yet you don't think Christians should be able to judge all Muslims and condemn them for not believing in Christ? There is endless evidence that sexual orientation is from birth and not choice. yet religion is 100 % choice.

Before anyone says I am pro gay, I'm not. I do not understand how one man can find anything sexual about another man nor do I want to see two men hugging/kissing or anything else but I do believe in freedom for people to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others. So even if your choice is not the one I would make there is nothing I can do about it because it is none of my business. Muslims and actually religious people in general always talk about not judging others and only god himself can judge people yet you bring up a gay man and the judging is off the charts.

Ops you asked how can one find themselves sexually attracted to the same sex. The answer is, unless you are in that individual's brain you won't know. Just like I can ask how can anyone believe in Noah's Ark and God putting every creature in a boat which, according to Biblical measurements would be impossible since there are billions of species of small creatures? Or how can anyone believe in a deity that we can't see? Or a prophet whom which there is no physical proof?

ops155 wrote: I have a question for all Muslims... Why is it that you can judge an entire group of peaceful people whom you have never met yet you don't think Christians should be able to judge all Muslims and condemn them for not believing in Christ? There is endless evidence that sexual orientation is from birth and not choice. yet religion is 100 % choice. Before anyone says I am pro gay, I'm not. I do not understand how one man can find anything sexual about another man nor do I want to see two men hugging/kissing or anything else but I do believe in freedom for people to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others. So even if your choice is not the one I would make there is nothing I can do about it because it is none of my business. Muslims and actually religious people in general always talk about not judging others and only god himself can judge people yet you bring up a gay man and the judging is off the charts.

Hi ops115,
sexual orientation may be by birth as you mentioned and not by choice, but to engage in an activity which is described as haram or forbidden by God both in the Quran and in previous revelations would be by choice.

A believer in God, and His guidance would always follow the rules they are associating themselves with, if we don't follow any particular rule or rules means we deny that belief and cannot claim to be part of its system.
We cannot say we are Muslim, but engage in back bitting, worshiping material or other gods, stealing, immoral behavior and so on.

There are those of us who are born with bad temper, and its not Ok for them to practice that in Islam. We must control that behavior, we are told through our practice of faith and prayer and fasting and not take it that, O we are born with it so we must nourish it. No, that was the reason we were given the belief system and rules, to follow them, and not follow our impulses. And how successful we end up being with how much effort and sacrifice will determine our reward.

Hasan



Edited by honeto - 24 December 2009 at 3:43pm