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Edited by Muslim75 - 26 December 2014 at 11:53am

Matt Browne wrote: The Ottoman empire was an aggressive form of Islamic imperialism, like the Colonial imperialism of the West that followed. Today we know better. Today we try to stick to following the human rights charter, instead of glorifying past empires.

Muslim75 wrote:   This thread is dedicated to the Magnificent Ottoman Empire.   Do not come in this thread to insult Islam. I do not wish to say it again.

The "Magnificent" Ottoman Empire? Is this supposed to be some kind of a joke?


How "magnificent" was the sacking of Constantinople? The murder of over a million Armenians? The ethnic cleansing and mass murder of Greeks?

The conquests and occupation of the Balkans? Armenia? Greece?

Do you know who the "janissaries" were? Children taken from their parents, put into the army and forced to fight and kill. Charles Taylor would have been impressed.

Like their "Christian" counterparts who ruled European states, the "Muslim" Ottoman rulers were a bunch of imperialist aggressors, who conquered and occupied those around them.


You call them "magnificent"? Shame on you.

You are no different than the *****s who defend the Crusades.


Edited by TG12345 - 02 October 2014 at 8:57pm

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Edited by Muslim75 - 26 December 2014 at 11:54am

I am from Turkey and I know the history of Ottomans more than any.

Though Ottoman Empire was a barrier to the western invasion (crusades) and I like it, and the nation was Islamic.

Other than that, the leaders were hypocrite. They never worked to serve the nations. They always were after worldly gains. From its beginning. Look up how it was founded. There were many Dynasties after the Seljuks split up. And Ottoman Dynasty fought each and every one of these Muslim Dynasties to have their lands. Later, fighting Iranian Muslims. Later fighting Mamluk Muslims (Egypt) over and over. Look up Ottoman-Egypt wars. The emperors were always after power. They made Muslims fight against each other. They were this sickeningly attached to their thrones and worldly gains that, even they made it permissible to kill every innocent relative of theirs even in the cradle (so that there won't be a fight for throne). Look up how "Mehmed the Conqueror" killed his own baby brother. Look up how "Suleiman the Magnificent" killed 17 of his family members (children, nephews, grandkids in the cradle). etc. They had nothing to do with Islam. They were just a bunch of rulers after worldly gains.

But Ottoman nation was great in general, though they were used against other Muslims (Persia, Egypt) sometimes. And sadly, the history is repeating itself. And now Turkish regime is after joining the EU, to serve NATO causes more and the government is using the nation to fight against Muslims in the region. So sad, how the progeny of that great nation -whcih stood up against western colonialism- is now used for NATO colonialism against Muslims of the region.

Edited by kodoo - 15 October 2014 at 1:59am