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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:11pm

Ahmad: Please remember that I have cast no aspersions on other Christian denominations - the Latter-day Saints or Mormons, along with such groups as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Unitarians, etc., are not Christian denominations, but non-Christian groups.

If you need further information, please access the following link:

http://aomin.org/apologetics.html

Now, I'd really rather respond to questions from Muslims or ask Muslims questions - as far as Mormons go, they have other forums where they defend their doctrines, such as Beliefnet, etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by Athanasius Athanasius wrote:

Ahmad: Please remember that I have cast no aspersions on other Christian denominations - the Latter-day Saints or Mormons, along with such groups as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Unitarians, etc., are not Christian denominations, but non-Christian groups.

If you need further information, please access the following link:

http://aomin.org/apologetics.html

Now, I'd really rather respond to questions from Muslims or ask Muslims questions - as far as Mormons go, they have other forums where they defend their doctrines, such as Beliefnet, etc.

See here, once again you cast doubt upon the beliefs of another member, then try to change the subject. They are not Christians in your opinion, but their opinion is different. Continuous attacks will not change their opinion, it is just a lack of manners.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:29pm
How many times do I have to explain that all I am doing is stating that Mormon beliefs are not compatible with Christian beliefs?  How hard is that to understand or grasp?  It is not a lack of manners - what is a lack of manners is to continue to dismiss what I state. Now would you be reacting the same way if somebody from the Ahmadiya sect came here to IC and began palming off their doctrine as Muslim? You know, favortism appears rampant here. You try to shut down people who are making a good effort at explaining their beliefs or asking legitimate questions.  John Brown - gone.  Katherine - gone. Meng - gone.  And of course, I soon will be gone as well.  And you can go ahead and delete this message, but you cannot delete the truth.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:42pm
Then state YOUR beliefs and the belief of your church, do not attack Angela's or anyone else's. It is not your job here to point out how wrong Mormonism is. If she wants to call herself a Christian, that is her right. Why can't you move past this point?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:49pm
Yes, surely.  Anglicans are Muslims.  We believe in the Holy Trinity, that salvation is by grace through faith in the Blood of Christ; we believe that Jesus will soon return to judge the quick and the dead. We believe their is no salvation outside of Christ.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2006 at 4:43am

Anglicanism, is that even a term ??

Originally posted by Mishmish Mishmish wrote:

Originally posted by Athanasius Athanasius wrote:

Ahmad: Please remember that I have cast no aspersions on other Christian denominations - the Latter-day Saints or Mormons, along with such groups as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Unitarians, etc., are not Christian denominations, but non-Christian groups.

Fine, can we get past this ?

Quote Now, I'd really rather respond to questions from Muslims or ask Muslims questions - as far as Mormons go, they have other forums where they defend their doctrines, such as Beliefnet, etc.

Athan, now that is a bit unpolite.

[quote]See here, once again you cast doubt upon the beliefs of another member, then try to change the subject. They are not Christians in your opinion, but their opinion is different. Continuous attacks will not change their opinion, it is just a lack of manners.

Mishmish, can please tell how Athan's post is casting doubt upon the beliefs of another member ? Athan is just trying to state that some groups are non christian groups.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2006 at 10:42am

Angel:

A group of the new posters decided they had a problem with Angela and Mormonism and had some very "un-nice" things to say. Despite repeated warnings they continued and some are no longer on the forum. Most of the posts were deleted and the threads closed.

We went through this all before on other threads. This thread was just an attempt to explain/justify what they were doing, but attacks of this type will simply not be allowed.

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2006 at 12:41pm

What right does he have to say I'm not a Christian Angel?  I was baptized in the name of Christ.  I claim Jesus Christ as my redeemer and close every prayer I offer in his name.  Athan has not right to call me a non Christian.  Judgement is reserved for God alone.

Angelicans....The Angelican Church was started by Henry the VIII because the Roman Catholic Church was not giving him a divorce.

Any Church separated from the Roman and Eastern Orthodox traditions have been called heretical.  The Inquisition ring any bells.  The problem with one group trying to tell another group what they can and cannot believe is ridiculous.

The Mormon faith faces the most violent, prejudicial and horrible attacks of any denomination.  We have been murdered, jailed and forced out of our homes and lands for 175 years. 

So-called Christians of a "mainstream variety" are responsible for the deaths at Hauns Mill, Far West and other parts of Jackson county.  It was Christians who killed Joseph and Hyrum for what they believed and drove starving and sick saints across the plains to a desert valley that no one wanted.  Then after they worked, bleed and died to turn this land into something valuable, they were attacked again. 

Then of course, a group of Missourian pioneers cross the Utah Territory, brag about being there at the massacres and a that they were going to do it again.  So, a group of Mormon men got together and killed them.  That is our great sin.  And one that has been taught to every child as what NOT to do.

There are thousands of sites, some of which are posted by Katherine, Meng and Athan to discredit and flat out lie about Mormons beliefs.  In 1974 the Extermination order in Missouri was finally lifted.

Athan is a bigot not a Christian.  Christ talk us to love and be kind, not to judge and persecute. 

Catholics claim to be the only church, so do many others.  Mine is no different.  But at least we let others believe in peace.

I have always said on this site I was mormon.  MY VERY FIRST POST LISTED MYSELF AS MORMON.  I have never lied and there have been numerous Christians on this board in the last 9 months and never have any been as rude and venomous as you Athan and your friends. 

I have every right to say what I believe here, however, I came here to learn about them after 7/7.  And I take offense to you coming here and doing no learning.  Just proselyting Christ and degrading my faith.  If I were from a backwoods independent church, you would never have said a thing even if I was a little off.  But since I belong to a Church of 12 million and growing.  You feel the need to actually discredit me.

Now the Muslims here see what kind of pain and prejudice the Mormons face and they now can understand that I know what they go through in this post 9/11 world.

 

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