Women-Led Friday Prayer

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assalamu alaikum farithrezza

You are not in trouble or anything, just that particlur post in the context of this thread is not apropriate, you are welcome to post it in a new post if you would like to discuss it with the forum members.

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I have this question for Rami!

Can you prove from Quran that how should we offer prayers??

Can you prove from Quran that there are fardh(must) rakats of prayers are as follow: 2, 4, 4, 3, 4.??

Can you prove that we have to offer prayers 5 times a day (from) Quran??

Can you prove that wine is Haram in Islam from Quran (there is no place in Quran which explicitly says that Wine is Haram)??

Can you prove that pork is haram in Islam From Quran??

If no should we take that there are no fixed numbers of Fardh rakats in prayers, and there are any number of prayers in Islam and that pork and wine is Halal??

All these instructions are clearly stated in Hadith so if anyone can't find a perticular order in Quran he will have to refer to Hadith. So its not always possible to find everything in Quran.

While Brother Ahmed Joya I ahve listened to 4 school of thoughts in Pakistan, the Hanfi, the Shia, the Malaki and the Salfi no one agree that Women can lead a mixed congregation. I follow no school of thought and only follow Quran and Hadith and till yet I have not seen any authority which says that women can lead mixed congregation. If someone thinks that it is possible then may be Allah and Prophet forgot to include this in the Quran and HAdith. But Quran says  that Today I have perfected your religion and have choosen Islam for you... 

So if either father or mother die then the other partner adopts both the sexes?? That's indeed a news for me. Perheps we should also set the percedence for husband and wife, that if wife dies husband automatically becomes wife. Indeed  it would be lovely to see husband giving birth to a child!!

Shams Zaman    Pakistan   

Shams Zaman wrote: ............. While Brother Ahmed Joya I ahve listened to 4 school of thoughts in Pakistan, the Hanfi, the Shia, the Malaki and the Salfi no one agree that Women can lead a mixed congregation.

Kindly note that I am also of the same view because of the status of  hadith presented in favour of the isssue is "Weak". However, if people do accept this hadith, which I again say is not reliable and therefore weak, then there are serious challanges (that I have presented above) to the opponents to prove beyound doubt that women can't lead the prayer. Therefore, from my point of view (which is ofcourse my personal view without any authority in it), women can't lead the prayer what to talk of having a mixed congregation for the prayer. 

I follow no school of thought and only follow Quran and Hadith and till yet I have not seen any authority which says that women can lead mixed congregation.

I have no objection to this view, though I am shall remain open to any other argument or evidence that may be presented to change my view.

If someone thinks that it is possible then may be Allah and Prophet forgot to include this in the Quran and HAdith. But Quran says  that Today I have perfected your religion and have choosen Islam for you...

Yes, true, but remember that though Quran is preserved in a form of a book that is equally accessible to any one, the same is not true for the huge resource of Hadith collection. Therefore in this case I always remain open to accept the new position if a new reliable evidence is provided.

So if either father or mother die then the other partner adopts both the sexes??

Its not the adoptation of both sexes but adopting the role of the two. This is quite frequently experienced by those whose either father or mother have passed away and the other person is now dealing with the upbringing of their children in a dual role, though, how best this dual role can be adopted by that single person is clearly debateable and vary from person to person.

That's indeed a news for me.

I pray that may Allah don't put any one of us in that test. Amen.

Perheps we should also set the percedence for husband and wife, that if wife dies husband automatically becomes wife. Indeed  it would be lovely to see husband giving birth to a child!!

I think I have clearified the idea, so there is no need to beat about the bush.

 

              
I'd like to say, depending on your madhhab, women should not lead the friday prayer or any other one. I believe, that it wouldn't be right with women doing a mans duty. Men were meant from the begining to lead prayers, not women. There is a reason for this, too. Women can't lead prayer because they can't raise their voice with the presence of men and why should they lead the prayer if there are men around?? It wouldn't be right if there was a woman leading the prayer and then the men behind her then the women. It is much more practical for a man to lead prayer even if there are no men around, a woman shouldn't lead prayer(hanafi ma dhhab) If you have any comments just send me a message. Asalaamu Alaikum