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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2006 at 6:50pm
I do not believe Muhammad ever confiscated bibles or persecuted Christian
missionaries.

This is clearly another innovation by Wahabis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2006 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Meng Meng wrote:

When our soldiers were sent over there in the Gulf War they were warned not to take a Bible.  Isn't that something?  You'd think that our government would have defended their soldiers' right to have their own Scriptures. 

They were also warned against "witnessing" to Muslims.  How ironic that a Muslim approached my daughter and spoke about the Gospel!  

This is wrong argument by pinning Saudi arabia as an example, when the missionary activities in many countries where the large muslim community residing were so aggressive without sensitivity. Maybe that was in the past.

You can't introduce an alien dogma to the people, they will resist. When Islam is offered to the christians, they don't find it as an offensive foe. But what you are offering is an alien ideology which I could not comprehand. I read the bible and made an attempt to understand it as much as I can, and I think I understand the point of it. I join the christian discussion forums for almost a year. Instead of being converted into christianity actually I changed quite few of them into viewing christianity differently, into better christians.

Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah.-----------(QS. 3:64)

An honest approach will always find receptive friendly host. If I want to convert them I could but I did not want it. They believe with their honest heart and I am happy with that.

Now think about your motive, is the sight of heaven is in your mind where you can see the sinners are burning in hell? Do you find it so pleasant to see those wrong doers screaming in pain?

Now you are hell bent to resque them from eternal damnation - if they refuse your approach what are you going to do? OR what did you do?

People are selfish you know, and you are not an exception. Do you want to go to heavan? When he come you want to show him how good you are, am I right?

His teaching should not be easily washed away by the incoming fierce onslought. He says that it liken the house that built upon the rock, very solid. Look at Europe, the proof for all to see.

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I, of course, totally disagree with their view that Jesus Christ is not the Word of God made flesh (in the sense that Jesus is the Second Person of a Triune Center of Being, sometimes expressed as "Trinity.")

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2006 at 11:19pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 5:47am

I checked with the Saudi Consulate in Singapore about this issue. He confirmed that each Christian is allowed to bring in a Bible for his/her reading.

A Christian is not allowed to bring in cartons of the Bible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 5:49am

I forgot to add the following, which I suspect will come at a later stage:

The Saudi Consulate also confirmed that no cross worn by any Christain is taken away. They are allowe to waer that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 5:52am

Evangelists preaching in Islamic countries

Oh, please go to Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia and see the Evangelists, preachers and Christian missionaries at work.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:43am
Thanks for  the update bmzsp I didn't know that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:47am

Well, the Saudis may have changed their rules in the last few years, but I am in touch with many soldiers who have experienced the same deal - confiscation of Bibles - having to hide them to get through customs - plus I have read reports of Christians having their Bibles confiscated and trashed when entering Saudi Arabia.  So, perhaps the Saudis are fudging on the truth here (it won't be the first time).

Also, I have read the posts here saying Christians are constantly telling Muslims they are going to hell?  Exactly what type of Christians are these Muslims talking to?  When sharing Christ and the Gospel with Muslims or any other group, a Christian would never threaten that person with Hell - we do not determine who goes to Hell, God does.

"Jesus did say that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life, and that no man cometh to the Father but by Him (Jesus)." During this Holy Week season, we remember these words, and the fact that Jesus overcame death and the grave, and rose again to vindicate His Words.  This is what we share with Muslims - not threats of Hell.

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