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That is absolutely false. This is an anti-Islamic site that propagates misinformation.

The Satanic Verses was a work of fiction written by Salman Rushdie. These meanings and the wording you quote for these verses were made up and ignorant people who have never even read the Quran have claimed them to be true. Much like The daVinci Code now.

53:19  Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

53:20  And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

53:21  What! For you the male sex, and for Him the female?

53:22  Behold, such would be a division most unfair!

53:23  These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

These are the correct verses, and to understand them you must read the whole Chapter. God is not telling anyone to worship these idols but rather to look at how base and degrading they are. That they are nothing but names, powerful only in men's minds.

The Quran has never been changed. It is the same today as it was written at the time of the Prophet. Two of the original copies exist today, one in Istanbul and one in Tashkent. Anyone is free to go and examine these copies and compare them to the Qurans in print today. They are exactly the same, no word has been changed. This is a historical fact.

It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye. (The Little Prince)
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Originally posted by Cicely Cicely wrote:

I agree with you ak_m_f. The "follow my heart" mess is very arrogant. I have told that same thing to people I know�who believe that they can figure out life for themselves and god for themselves without any guidance from any type of scripture. What usually happens is that the person shapes his or her beliefs to what is "comfortable" for them and not to what God wants them to know.


I want to apologize for the above site. I found it on google and I didnt read the whole site. I dont want to put anyone off.


It's alrite. There are many anti-islamic & anti-christain websites.
Anyone with internet connection and $10 in his pocket can make a website and post what-ever he wants.

The main thing is that we get our information from the right websites.

If you want I can post some websites that will help u to understand islam better, and I can also give you e-mail address of some scholars who can answer your questions.



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"If you want I can post some websites that will help u to understand islam better, and I can also give you e-mail address of some scholars who can answer your questions."

that would be great! please do so.
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You can start right here on Islamicity. They have great resources including a Quran search and lots of articles.

www.islamicity.com

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Here are somewebsite that will help you to understand Islam better

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http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml
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Originally posted by Cicely Cicely wrote:

Did the Qur�an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.


Have those verses been �abrogated� out of the present Qur�an? Yes.


What were they called? The Satanic Verses.�


source: Im not trying to insult anyone's faith. I just want to know how one would respond to this claim.



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The sight (of Prophet Muhammad SAW) turned not aside (right or left), nor it transgressed beyond
(the) limit (ordained for it).
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Indeed he (Muhammad SAW) did see, of the Greatest Signs, of his Lord (All�h).
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Have you then considered Al-L�t, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs) []
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And Man�t (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?
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Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
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That indeed is a division most unfair!
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They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which All�h has sent down no
authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely
come to them the Guidance from their Lord!




what proof you have that they were "abrogated"?

nothing was deleted or added to quran, since it was revealed.
People have tried many time, but they have always failed


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That above was a quote from an article I was reading so asking me for proof is moot. I was wondering about this claim and the verses that it attaches.
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Have those verses been �abrogated� out of the present Qur�an? Yes.


The Othman Koran was compiled in Medina by Othman, the third caliph or Muslim leader.

Before him, the sacred verses which Muslims believe God gave to Muhammad were memorised, or written on pieces of wood or camel bone.

To prevent disputes about which verses should be considered divinely inspired, Othman had this definitive version compiled. It was completed in the year 651, only 19 years after Muhammad's death.


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