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AnnieTwo
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The Nicean Council did not choose the gospels. The books of
the NT were formerly accepted after the Nicean Council. You can
read the books that did not make it into the Canon on the
Internet. Most of them compliment the NT on the important issues,
that he died and rose again; others make Jesus more divine than the
Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Others were written much
too late to be considered canon and were Gnostic. Gnosticism was
in full force in the mid-second century. One has Jesus bringing a
child back to life, one has Jesus speaking as an infant and saying that
he is the Son of God and the Savior of the World, one has Jesus making
life from clay, one says that his bathwater as an infant was capable of
making miracles.
See above. There have been scribal errors, glosses and the
like. All can be traced and corrected. A good Bible will
note what is not in an early manuscript. All information is
available. Nothing affects Christian doctrine. In addition,
the Gospel we have today is the same one be had before Muhammad was
born.
No, Mishmish, they were not "added later." The concept is
there in the Scriptures. All of Jesus' apostles believed that he
was divine; even the Jews believed that Jesus was claiming
divinity. The puzzle was, "How can that be?"
Haven't we been on this merry-go-round before?
I asked you first. lol I think that God gave us quite a few
clues as to His tri-une nature. God gives us as much as we can
understand depending on the circumstances. The people in the
early days of the Hebrew scriptures were having enough trouble
believing that there was only one God, let alone the nature of that one
God.
He did by the claims that he made.
The Bible says in no uncertain terms that there is only on God. Christians believe this.
Then how do you explain that God calls King David His son? If Allah is YHVH, then we have a major contradiction. YHVH calls all of Israel His "son."
The Qur'an says "don't say three," it does not say "trinity." Trinity was an added word by translators. Where in the Qur'an does it define the true believe of Christians and condemn it?
Answered above. Annie |
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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BMZ
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Annie, From you:The Jews do not blame Christians for forging the Scriptures. Where do you come up with these blatant lies? Yes! The Jews do. The second sentence from you in above is darn insulting, Annie. Just google and you will find heaps of the truth. Annie:If Muslims blame and accuse Christians and Jews of changing God's message, where is your proof? Because the Qur'an contradicts the Holy Bible? The same claim can be made of the Muslims. The Muslims changed God's original message from the Holy Bible. The proof is in the Bible. We read so many contradictions within the Bible. That is proof in itself. To, Qura'aan the word Bible is unheard of and Qur'aan only mentions Torah and Injeel. God's original message was,"Your Lord God is One". Qur'aan just repeated and reaffirmed that. BMZ: I would not say that the Christian Bible and the Jewish Scriptuers have been corrupted. I would say they have been forged. Annie: And you would be wrong. BMZ: I am always right. I quote from Scriptures and compare. I gave The best example of the forgery: Jewish Scripture: "The young woman shall give birth to a child and shall call him Immanuel". No young woman in the history of Israel gave birth to Immanuel as prophecised and that never happened. Jewsih Scripture is slilent on this. Christian Scripture: "The virgin will give birth to a child and will call him Immanuel". The virgin disobeyed God by not calling the child Immanuel. Annie: Look, BMZ, just because you can't understand the Scriptures does not make them "forged." I put the explanation on the level of a child (which you asked for) and you still don't understand it. BMZ: There is really nothing to understand, Annie. It is all written in English. Had you put the explanation on the level of a child, I would have understood it, but you could not and we moved on. I believe that I write and discuss inter-faith matters very respectfully. It is just that either you possibly did not understand or read my thoughts well. Annie, the second part of your above comment was not in good taste. This is a place to discuss and argue. I feel sorry for you that you felt it that way. I write the facts and these matter most. Edited by bmzsp |
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DavidC
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The Bible we have today is the same one Muhummad had, and the same one recommended in the Qu'ran.
All these so called corruptions, edits, glosses whatever do not matter one iota. The Bible had been codified for centuries before the Qu'ran and Muhummad. The Qu'ran and Hadith say read the Taurat, Injeel and Psalms. They do NOT say read the Taurat, Injeel and Psalms from several hundred years ago. Yes, they have changed and yes, God and Muhummad knew that when they told Muslims to respect them as holy books. |
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